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more on SHA-1 cracked?


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:29:27 -0500


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From: Von Welch <vwelch () ncsa uiuc edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:45:28 -0600
To: <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] SHA-1 cracked?


Dave,

 Before spreading too much concern over SHA-1 being cracked, please
read Steve Bellovin's note below. Folks need to understand the
what "cracked" or "broken" means to cryptographers; this doesn't
necessarily have immediate implications for the world in practice.

Von

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From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
To: cryptography () metzdowd com
Subject: SHA-1 cracked
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:29:43 -0500

According to Bruce Schneier's blog
(http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html), a
team has found collisions in full SHA-1.  It's probably not a practical
threat today, since it takes 2^69 operations to do it and we haven't
heard claims that NSA et al. have built massively parallel hash
function collision finders, but it's an impressive achievement
nevertheless -- especially since it comes just a week after NIST stated
that there were no successful attacks on SHA-1.

  --Prof. Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb



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David Farber writes (10:21 February 16, 2005):

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From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe () centergate com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:36:36 -0700
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: SHA-1 cracked?

For IP

Hi Dave,

Bruce Schneier is reporting in his blog that SHA-1 appears to have been
broken by a Chinese group, and that is has collisions "in the the full
SHA-1
in 2**69 hash operations, much less than the brute-force attack of 2**80
operations based on the hash length.".

This could have non-trivial implications for many current commercial
operations.

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html

Rodney Joffe
Chairman and CTO
UltraDNS Corporation





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