more on Privacy and Power

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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> From: "Nicola Dell'Arciprete" <n.dellarciprete () radicali it>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Privacy and Power
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> Dear David,
>
> I am a new subscriber to your interesting newsletter. I live and work in 
> Europe, between Amsterdam and Rome and I know that the question of 
> "privacy" is a sensitive one in Europe. A continent where every Country 
> and the European Union itself is adopting very restrictive rules on that 
> matter.
>
> But I think that - despite a general consensus among specialists - the 
> interest of the individual is the right to be known, not the right to 
> "protect" his own identity. I'll try to explain. In the history, powerfull 
> people only claimed the right (privilege) to keep their own activities 
> under secret: in China, it was strictly forbidden to look at the Emperor. 
> This is the privacy of the Power. Because secrecy was the source of 
> legitimacy for a political power, strictly linked - at that time - to 
> religion. Today, in democratic societies, the only privacy allowed for the 
> Political Power is the State secret on a limited number of documents. And 
> the attention is almost entirely focused on the privacy of individuals.
>
> Off course, I don' t like to receive spam messages and bulk mail at home, 
> but as citizen I am not scared from the sight of external forces, as a 
> political power could be. Even if someone looks at my sensible data it's 
> my affair, althought when someone looks at sensible data of a cabinet 
> member or a member of parliament, it's my affair too.
>
> That is why I think that we should go back to the historical struggle of 
> the humankind: the struggle to know and know more and better, starting 
> from the secret of political entities. Accepting some more spam can be a 
> reasonable price for a more transparent democracy.
>
> I appreciate your time and look forward to hear from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicola Dell'Arciprete
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mailto:dave () farber net>David Farber
> To: <mailto:ip () v2 listbox com>Ip
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:52 PM
> Subject: [IP] Paranoia????
>
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: Shannon McElyea <<mailto:shannon () swisscreek com>shannon () swisscreek com>
> Reply-To: <<mailto:Shannon () auntieshannon com>Shannon () auntieshannon com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:46:19 -0800
> To: David Farber <<mailto:dave () farber net>dave () farber net>
> Subject: FW: Paranoia????
>
> A friend sent this - name removed. has this happened to anyone else?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Paranoia????
>
> I just received a hand delivered mailer from the ACLU requesting my 
> signing of a petition against the most anti-constitutional elements of the 
> "Patriot" act.
> Unfortunately the envelope had been opened, and the petition removed.
> Is it possible this was a one-of-a kind delivery?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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