Interesting People mailing list archives
more on Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:31:33 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Seth Finkelstein <sethf () sethf com> Date: December 4, 2005 5:24:53 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip () v2 listbox com, lauren () vortex com, karn () ka9q net Subject: Re: [IP] Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists I'd like to point out that there's already a web-based Google privacy proxy service, from http://www.scroogle.org/ http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm And source: http://www.scroogle.org/changes.html It's even been covered in a widely-read net site: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/11/open_source_google_scraper/ But nobody in this discussion knew it even existed. That should say it all, with respect to how successful a solution of "let's get coding" will be. Didn't we go through this type of argument a decade ago, duringthe cryptography wars? Constant assertions that government-is-BAD, so the
*only* solution is for the tech rebels to make the resistance tools that will defeat the schemes of the dangerous but dumb empire bureaucrats? (anybody heard of the cypherpunk cryptoanarchy BlackNet lately? No?) And there's something very strange about an idea that all legal rights can vanish, but one will be able to protect oneself by saying "It wasn't really me! It was the data-poisoning daemon I ran!" There's a massive privatizing of surveillance of society. While I'm similarly not opposed to people constructing technical defenses, it has to be recognized that such a small percentage of the population can do it that overall it's no solution at all. -- Seth Finkelstein Consulting Programmer http://sethf.com/ Infothought blog - http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/ Interview: http://sethf.com/essays/major/greplaw-interview.php ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- more on Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists David Farber (Dec 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- more on Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists David Farber (Dec 04)
- more on Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists David Farber (Dec 04)
- more on Google search and seizure, etc. vs. technologists David Farber (Dec 06)