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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:53:16 -0500

There is also the opportunity to stop the noice re evm by impounding some machines in the right location and actually doing a code check. is anyone suggesting that?



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From: Ken Deifik <kenneth.d () adelphia net>
Date: November 3, 2004 11:34:32 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Statistical Question

Dave,
It occurs to me that one of the questions that could be answered without too much trouble, at least for someone with lots of access to data and a knowlege of statistics, would be: is there any difference in the Bush - Kerry percentages in precincts that used eVoting, especially Diebold but all eVoting machines, as opposed to those that used paper ballots or some other method of voting.  If this question has any meaning for you, I'd ask you to pose to the list, to see anyone with the proper skills and access could carry out such a study.

I hope in the next few days statisticians examine the issue of the exit polls.  Since the early 70's the exit polls have always been spot on.  I feel ashamed for any journalist who says the exit polls got it wrong in FLA in 2000, because it is clear they got it right.

I have to wonder how John Zogby, who predicted 312 electoral votes for Kerry at 5PM EST 11/2, could have gotten the exit polls so wrong.  Or really if he did.

You might wish to know that CNN only changed its exit polls in Ohio from Kerry favorable to Bush favorable early on 11/3.

You can see a screenshot of the Kerry favorable at http://tinyurl.com/42qbv .  It is time-stamped 12:21 AM.  An hour and 20 minutes later it's suddenly got Bush way ahead in the exit polls.  http://tinyurl.com/568vo

 I just found this posting in the Democratic Underground site
...on several swing states, and EVERY STATE that has EVoting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results.

In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error.

 So we have MATCHING RESULTS for exit polls vs. voting with audits

 vs.

 A 5% unexplained advantage for Bush without audits.

Anyway, best regards,
Ken Deifik
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