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more on more on BT says no VOIP Blocking
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:00:03 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-0406 () bobf frankston com> Date: October 31, 2004 2:34:39 PM EST To: dave () farber net, 'Ip' <ip () v2 listbox com>Cc: 'John Shoch' <shoch () alloyventures com>, "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Subject: RE: [IP] more on BT says no VOIP Blocking John, I sense some moral indignation here.While I have seen business plans that do make naïve assumptions about P2P and understand frustration with some of them, it's important to step back
recognize the fallacies in the current model of tele/communications. The reverse is also true -- the absurd luxury of building a specialinfrastructure to carry voice traffic over high-priced dedicated paths. No
wonder the CableCos and Telcos are going IP to reduce costs.A voice stream seems to be a relatively small increment on a network that delivers megabyte web pages and multi-megabit video streams. Charging for VoIP itself makes no more sense than having usage sensitive charging for a
walkie-talkie (that term sure seems anachronistic).As David and I have pointed out, QoS can be far more problematic than VoIP
itself. How do you composite a QoS path in a dynamic network across manydifferent segments? No wonder it's been less expensive to add capacity then
dole out scarcity.Of course we must cover the costs of the infrastructure but the problem is
no VoIP, the problem is a business model that's based on a fictional emulation of a 19th century model of communications. We will be shifting to a local utility model and covering the cost ofcarrying bits over a local infrastructure just as we do with roads and power lines today. The question is the cost per gigabit of capacity, not the cost
of audio bits vs video bits.Highlighting a single minor application like VoIP is only a diversion. It's
more useful to focus attention on an outdated billing system that is the dominant cost of providing voice services.While you can argue nothing is free, it's also possible to take something
that doesn't exist -- like voice telephony as a service -- and create a billable entity. We do the same when we apply a Fourier Transform toelectromagnetic radiation and then create charges or when we use the words
"Intellectual Property" as if it were just like real estate.The mapping of cost to price is not at all trivial. Even if nothing is free you can make it prohibitively expensive with the wrong marketplace model.
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David Farber Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 04:27 To: Ip Subject: [IP] more on BT says no VOIP Blocking Begin forwarded message: From: John Shoch <shoch () alloyventures com> Date: October 30, 2004 7:06:28 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: John Shoch <shoch () alloyventures com> Subject: RE: [IP] BT says no VOIP Blocking Dave, Well, once again "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch." Anyone who thinks they can get "free" telephony (or video or P2P) over the internet will be in for a rude awakening. The ISP "all you can eat" end-user pricing models are, of course, based on some set of assumptions about typical usage. If you add significant VoIP/video/P2P the model gets broken -- either quality levels go down, or the ISPs go broke adding more equipment. Rather than get crushed under a flood of P2P packets, ISPs will eventually have to raise prices or protect themselves (P-Cube, www.caspiannetworks.com, etc.). QOS is not necessarily meant to cut back any class of traffic; but QOS does ALLOW systems to prioritize traffic, and develop appropriate pricing models. In the future, we should expect that ISPs will offer higher levels of QOS tied to higher charges. You will be able to pay for high-quality VoIP or video, if that's important to you. (Remember why student standby tickets used to be so cheap -- you could get delayed!) Remember, anyone who expects a free lunch usually gets a pretty crummy lunch. John Shoch Alloy Ventures ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as BobIP () Bobf Frankston com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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