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more on Real Audio the only choice
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:39:36 -0400
Delivered-To: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:05:00 -0700 From: Seth David Schoen <schoen () loyalty org> Subject: Re: [IP] Real Audio the only choice Sender: Seth David Schoen <schoen () zork net> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Dave Farber writes: > From: Shannon McElyea <shannon () swisscreek com> > > Dear Dave, > > I've also found that if I want to listen to something on NPR that I can use > RealAudio only. I don't want to use it either, because it hijacks my > applications. And below, the concern of spyware. > What can be done? > Thank you... This may be, in part, a DMCA problem. The first-ever DMCA case (RealNetworks v. Streambox) featured RealNetworks using the DMCA to suppress rival software that worked with RealAudio. It settled out of court, and many people are skeptical whether Real would have prevailed against a vigorous defense -- but it's hard to afford a vigorous defense. (I wrote about this case in my web diary years ago, and it continues to be one of the most popular search requests -- because people are still trying to find out where they can get the software that RealNetworks suppressed.) If we had a really pro-interoperability legal environment today, you could enjoy things like open source RealAudio players that independent experts could easily verify were totally spyware-free. If you want to recommend technologies to people who do streaming audio, the best is streaming Ogg Vorbis (no patent, DMCA, or trade secret obstacles to interoperability) and the second best is probably streaming MP3 (like Shoutcast) (no DMCA or trade secret problems). I think most computer users now have a means of playing a Shoutcast stream, and Shoutcast and Icecast are available for free, so it's getting hard to find an argument for preferring RealAudio over Shoutcast. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen () loyalty org> | Very frankly, I am opposed to people http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | being programmed by others. http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | -- Fred Rogers (1928-2003),| 464 U.S. 417, 445 (1984)
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