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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:18:50 -0400
------ Forwarded Message From: Steven Cherry <s.cherry () ieee org> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:58:14 -0400 To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] Mobile industry looks ahead to 4G Dave, There's no industry agreement in what's meant by "4G", so I guess Pearce can say whatever he wants. In fact, one thing we know is that whatever it means now, it'll mean something different when its prime time rolls around. That's what happened with "3G". Here's what Webopedia has to say. I think this is pretty much what everyone meant when 3G came along in the late 1990s: "3G is an ITU specification for the third generation (analog cellular was the first generation, digital PCS the second) of mobile communications technology. 3G promises increased bandwidth, up to 384 Kbps when a device is stationary or moving at pedestrian speed, 128 Kbps in a car, and 2 Mbps in fixed applications." In fact, here's what the ITU itself said in 2000: "Speeds nearly three times faster than today's basic rate ISDN for fast-moving mobile terminals and even higher speeds for users who are stationary or moving at walking speed" and here's what Ericcson said: "3G combines high-speed mobile access with Internet Protocol (IP) based services." Compare that to today (talking about EDGE, a 3G application/network): "... 3-4 times higher voice and GPRS data capacity and 3-4 times higher data rates than GSM." That's just a narrowband-like 30-60 kb/s data rates, a far cry from the broadband-like numbers originally envisioned. And indeed, today, companies like Sprint and Verizon use "3G" to refer to data rates in that range. In fact, one working definition of "4G" is that it actually deliver what 3G promised: 2 Mb/s data rates on pure-IP networks. (3G still does data overlaid on a voice-optimized network, which is one of the main things impeding its throughput.) In the opinion of some, 1G (analog cellular service) was little more than a proof-of-concept of mobile telephony, and 2G networks were the first to do something that large numbers of consumers wanted -- and were willing to pay for. Indeed, the continued success of 2G is one of the main stumbling blocks to 3G, particularly in Japan, where many people see a big gap in price unmatched by only modestly greater functionality. So some industry experts have said, pay attention to the even numbers, we may just end up skipping 3G and go straight to 4G. There are already companies, such as Flarion and Soma and MeshNetworks, with technology that matches the definition of 4G given above. So I think Pearce's title is correct, though he may be wrong in some of the details. Steven
Mobile industry looks ahead to 4G By James Pearce ZDNet Australia May 9, 2003, 8:55 AM PT URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-1000756.html Third-generation mobile technology has arrived, duly accompanied by a barrage of hype. But the industry is already casting its eyes forward to the next big thing--4G. However, while 4G is viewed by many as a communications technology that will allow one device to roam seamlessly over several different wireless technologies, arguments over the fine detail of what constitutes 4G continue to rage. Jason Ross, senior analyst at amr interactive, told ZDNet Australia, "everyone was arguing about what 3G is for a while, and you've still got people trying to muddy the waters". <etc.>
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