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Venik & iraqwar.ru Follow-Ups


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 05:39:33 -0500


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From: "Stephen D. Poe" <sdpoe () acm org>
Organization: Nautilus Solutions
Reply-To: sdpoe () acm org
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:42:48 -0600
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Venik & iraqwar.ru Follow-Ups

Dave - 

There's currently several newsgroup threads discussing iraqwar.ru (see
sci.military.naval:"The credibility of Iraqwar.ru or lack thereof" and
smn:"Intel evaluation 2003.03.25", in rec.aviation.military:"The Noted
Waterhead: Venik" and even in alt.engr.exploisves:"Russian analysis of
the ongoing battles in Iraq").

Regarding Venik and his site at http://www.aeronautics.ru; I suggest a
few minutes spent on Google will be informative. He's well know to both
sci.military.naval and rec.aviation.military posters and lurkers.

Historically he's not known for his accuracy. He's probably best known
for his heated assertions during the Yugoslavia conflict as to how many
planes NATO lost, NATO's "deliberate targeting of civilian targets", and
NATO's "use of chemical weapons". His claims of multiple shoot-downs of
everything from F-16s to B-2s and B-52s were somewhat quickly quashed
given the hobby of tail spotters worldwide. Many of his other claims,
such as "A NATO pilot admits that civilian targets were deliberately
attacked during the operation "Allied Force" and that NATO aviation used
chemical weapons" were likewise not later confirmed. See:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/natodown.htm and a Google search for "Venick
B-2 Shoot Down" as examples.

I would have to view anything with his name associated with it with
suspicion.


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