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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:29:21 -0500
I second Dave's comments. I have taught the same kind of material often and have the same feelings. Dave ------ Forwarded Message From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:36:46 -0500 To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Tragedy At 01:50 PM 3/19/2003 -0500, William Hugh Murray <whmurray () sprynet com> wrote:
Put yourself in the place of this young man's faculty. What message would you wish that you had given him with all the powerful special knowledge that you gave him? Please pass that message to all your students this week. Thanks.
Exactly why should we place the blame for a 20 year-old's hacking on his faculty? Or for that matter presume that a "natural sciences" student learned hacking techniques at school at all? His parents had him for 18 years, and the school had him for two. As a faculty member (albeit currently only an adjunct) I detect a whiff of misdirected rage at academic research. When I've tried to incorporate humanistic values into my curriculum (many years ago, during the Vietnam era) or issues of privacy and free speech, there have been those who argue that we should not do so at all. I disagree. I express my values and views. But I don't feel that it is within my grasp to take a criminally inclined student in hand, and convey a respect for the law. 18 years should be long enough for parents to do that job, and if they fail, perhaps it really is time for the courts to prosecute and convict the actual criminal, not his teachers. ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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