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E-Learning on the Patriot Act
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:59:40 -0500
I second this letter from Staf. Djf ------ Forwarded Message From: Gene Spafford <spaf () cerias purdue edu> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:17:15 -0500 To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] E-Learning on the Patriot Act I'm responding -- without quoting -- Jim Warren's post about the visiting law professor from the CIA. What I got from the post was that he felt that Mr. Strickland (the lawyer from the CIA) was somehow too biased to allow as a professor, or would require a counterbalance in the classroom. This made me angry, for reasons I set out below. Does Mr. Warren believe that every other faculty member, adjunct or otherwise, is unbiased? That anyone who has worked for the government is somehow tainted and unable to act as an instructor in a classroom? Are people with strong personal and professional opinions -- such as this list's moderator, the estimable Professor Farber -- really that different, modulo their beliefs? An "ardent advocate for civil liberties protections" as suggested by Mr. Warren is clearly biased, by definition! Mr. Strickland is a lawyer. Serving in the CIA he has taken a solemn oath to ".. support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I [he] will bear true faith and allegiance to the same...." I'm sure he takes that seriously. He's also admitted to the bar in VA and in DC, and that also requires an oath to uphold the law. That he *may* have a different view of what is proper support for the Constitution than Mr. Warren or me or anyone else does not make him unqualified to teach a course (and I stress "*may*" because we do not know his views). How do we know whether Mr. Strickland is "an ardent advocate for civil liberties protections" himself? His affiliation is identified in the course listing: The students will not be misled about his background. His bio notes a number of publications and speaking engagements related to the issues about which he is teaching. Thus, it seems unlikely that the cognizant officials at the university were misled in some way when they granted him the visiting position and scheduled the class. He has a law degree, his bio shows a distinguished record of government service including several awards, and even a MS degree in CS from UVa, where he was an NSF Fellow. This is someone with significant experience and education, and I see no reason for him to need a chaperone to teach a class related to his profession. As a professor, I take umbrage at the notion that there should be some political litmus test to allow a person to teach students. Each and every person has opinions, and sometimes we expose those to our students. If anything, this is a quality that makes our universities more valuable than simply learning out of books. We have faculty who are avowed socialists, rapid Creationists, militant feminists, .... pick a particular set of views. Even those of us who are not at the extremes hold views -- that we pursue knowledge does not mean that we eschew personal opinions and experience. I would be incensed if someone advocated that Dave or I or anyone else should be excluded from the classroom or require a military monitor because we have spoken out against some government actions and belong to organizations that support civil rights. I am equally offended that someone would suggest that an educated, published individual must be monitored in the classroom because of his choice to serve his country and support the Constitution as he believes correct. If we are to really protect civil rights and the Constitution, then we need to respect reasoned views of others, even if we do not agree with them. That extends to people who work for the CIA, the FBI, the ACLU, the EFF and anything in between (or beyond). We may not agree with every view, but it is the shared exchange of opinions in venues such as our universities that enable us to learn about each other, to evolve our own views, and to agree to common approaches that allow us to work with each other. --spaf ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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