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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:58:18 -0400


Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:32:34 -0400
From: Robert Lee <robertslee () comcast net>
Subject: RE: [IP] Price of Gasoline
To: dave () farber net

A total rip off.  People of good faith and brains who don’t believe that are
too close or have lived with the nonsense for so long that it seems
reasonable.

Here is the proof.  1974.  Post first Carter era gas crisis.  Gas prices
shoot up, then start down as use diminishes (ECON 101).  ARCO (showing my
age) suddenly raises prices.  The ARCO VP of something or other is
interviewed on radio and says, "Due to a lack of demand, and a consequent
diminution of revenues, ARCO had to raise prices."  That is also ECON 101.
It is behavior that is only possible with monopoly power.  I remember
pulling my car over at Greenwood and Glenside Avenues, in amazement.

The only exceptions are monopolies, including governments.  Philadelphia
keeps losing its tax base so it raises taxes.

The only saving grace is that ultimately you wind up with a Declaration of
Independence.  The Declaration from Philadelphia is written in the hills of
Conshohocken (which are still there, just under the dozen and half office
buildings).

Robert Lee
Encoda
Office  610-397-1632
Home  610-642-9707
Cell     610-724-1288


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ip () v2 listbox com [mailto:owner-ip () v2 listbox com] On Behalf Of
Dave Farber
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:34 PM
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] Price of Gasoline

Still sounds like a rip off to me djf


>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:16:04 -0500
>From: "Stephen D. Poe" <sdpoe@acm.o



>To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
>
>Dave -
>
>A couple of days ago you asked about the price hike. I've found a couple
>of items that might be of interest.
>
>U.S. Gas Prices Make Record Jump
>Mon Aug 25, 8:42 AM ET
>
>CAMARILLO, Calif. - Supply shortages pushed average retail gasoline prices
>up more than 15 cents a gallon nationally during the past two weeks, the
>largest retail price hike on record since the Lundberg Survey began
>keeping records 50 years ago.
>...snipped...
>Temporary refinery shutdowns caused by the massive East Coast/Midwest
>blackout combined with a break in a major pipeline in Arizona to cause the
>supply disruptions, Lundberg said.
>
>However, the reopening of the pipeline and the end of the blackout means
>gas prices should fall thanks to the traditional decline in demand in
>September and an influx of imported gasoline attracted by the current high
>prices, she said.
>
>Background
>----------
>"Why Do Gasoline Prices Fluctuate?"
>"Good weather and vacations cause U.S. summer gasoline demand to average
>about 6% higher than during the rest of the year. If crude oil prices
>remain unchanged, gasoline prices would typically increase by 5-6 cents
>during the summer."
>...
>"If demand rises quickly or supply declines unexpectedly due to refinery
>production problems or lagging imports, gasoline inventories (stocks) may
>decline rapidly. When stocks are low and falling, some wholesalers become
>concerned that supplies may not be adequate over the short term and bid
>higher for available product. Such was the case in late summer 1997, as a
>demand surge drained gasoline stocks and prices rose rapidly."
>-
>http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/primer_o
n_gasoline_prices/html/petbro.html
>
>Gasoline & Diesel Fule Update -
>http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
>
>Weekly US Retail Gasoline Prices -
>http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_
page.html
>
>A US DoE estimate from earlier this summer:
>"Short-Term Energy Outlook April 2003
>Summer 2003 Motor Gasoline Outlook
>Summary
>For the upcoming summer season (April to September 2003), high crude oil
>costs and other factors are expected to yield average retail motor
>gasoline prices higher than those of last year. Current crude oil prices
>reflect a substantial uncertainty premium due to concerns about the
>current conflict in the Persian Gulf, lingering questions about whether
>Venezuelan oil production will recover to near pre-strike levels in time
>for the peak driving season, and the impact of recent disruptions in
>Nigerian oil output. Moreover, unusually low crude oil and gasoline
>inventory levels at the outset of the driving season are expected to keep
>prices high throughout much of the summer and declines from current high
>levels are likely to be constrained.
>·  Retail gasoline prices (regular grade) are expected to average $1.56
>per gallon, 17 cents per gallon higher than last summer’s average and
>slightly above the average in the summers of 2000 and 2001. Because of the
>uncertainty surrounding the crude oil market and the domestic
>refining/distribution system, even if no new disruptions to crude oil and
>gasoline supply occur, a 95 percent confidence range extends as much as 16
>cents per gallon to either side of the baseline forecast during the
>upcoming driving season. New disruptions could result in prices above the
>baseline forecast while definitive resolutions of current problems could
>result in prices lower than the baseline forecast. Although we expect
>prices to retreat slowly after nearing the previous nominal monthly
>average record of $1.69 per gallon in March, there remains a significant
>probability that gasoline prices could be above those of the baseline
>projection. It should be noted that the projected (baseline) average
>summer gasoline price, when adjusted for inflation, is still well below
>the record reached during the summer of 1980 (about $2.77 per gallon in
>year 2003 dollars).
>·  Gasoline Demand is projected to average 9.18 million barrels per day, a
>new record, up 150,000 barrels per day, or 1.6 percent, from last summer.
>The growth comes amid the gradual acceleration of the U.S. economy out of
>the 2001-02 recession despite the higher retail prices.
>·  Total beginning of season motor gasoline stocks are estimated at 200
>million barrels, 13 million barrels below those at the same time last
>year. They are projected to rise to 201 million barrels at the end of the
>season. Inventory changes are therefore not expected to make a net
>contribution to this summer’s gasoline supply, resulting in an even higher
>reliance on imported sources than in previous summers."
>- http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/sum-outlook.pdf

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