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more on Why European "eVAT" tax is not unfair to U.S. firms
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:50:49 -0400
------ Forwarded Message From: Peter Bachman <peterb () cequs com> Organization: Cequs Inc. Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:24:23 -0400 To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: <[IP]> Why European "eVAT" tax is not unfair to U.S. firms Dave, I heard an interesting presentation on this in Amsterdam. Many major software companies have offices in European cities. There's no reason why if Europeans purchase over the net that VAT should not apply, when the same company has an office down the street that does in fact particpate in that particular economy, and employs local workers. Certain parts of the VAT are rebated determined on where they are in the EU Internal market, so it's not like American based software firms are at a disadvantage from price per se. It does in fact "level the playing field" to stimulate the innovations and formation of European software firms, rather than us dumping on them. Consider our movies which consume enormous and outrageous budgets, (owned by the French or the Japanese before that) part of which is just advertising, dominating and shutting up our U.S. independents that might be distributing something interesting in our market, but are faced with competition from movies that don't even make money domestically, while they count on their revenue streams from sales abroad, and from later sales on tape and DVD. It just ramps everything up to where it requires companies merge with other companies just to be big enough to compete, and then what have you? Mass media/mediocrity. No one wants to take a risk. Seriously, look at every shopping mall here in the U.S., notice something? They are all the same! Of course some people like that, so I'll not truly fault that, but give me a break, it's really major sprawl, and we are creating this totally artificial architecture that is psychologically devoid of relation to place. Silicon Valley is the epitome of this. Cubes! The prices look good but the costs show up in different places, like energy, traffic, etc. as we super size our way to massive cardial infarctions. Go to Florida and visit Europe. Go to Vegas and you can be anywhere you want. It's more than a tribute, it's something deeper, like cyberspace leaking into our real physical space. Not that you can't go to a good Thai or French restaurant in NYC, or Cuban in Philly. But when does choice shift to something else? Of course, if this domination were not enough in enforcing mass taste and consumption, then they want to break into your computer to make sure you aren't stealing this IP. In oue global culture you can go to a manufactured Irish pub in Dublin, Kalamazoo, or Paris. Or an Australian outback type steakhouse just about anywhere. We have separated ourselves from real geogrphical places in most difficult way, in way that begs us to answer what is authentic, as Baudrillard puts it in his book on Simulation. People crave authenticity, because it is now so rare. And it's been this way for a long time, but now even more so. What percentage of stuff at Wal Mart is made in China? If you go for price and not for quality of software, then there will always be other countries that can do it cheaper. Don't look for handouts from Europe, if they want to put in better security, or some other idea we don't seem to be able to do with mass bucks in a mass market. When they decide to put in open source for gov projects there, one hear's the same whine. Perhaps it's harder to buy their politicians than it is here. Folks, think about this systematically. You are in a global economy. Few companies are really American anymore, and if they are, bless em. the Europeans have different values than we do, and make people pay for them, instead of hiding them in other places. If you don't like it go to the mall. Otherwise we really will be like Snow Crash. Pizzas and microcode being the only things we do well. -pb Peter Bachman ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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