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IP: Latest target - scuba divers
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:16:02 +0900
------ Forwarded Message From: Mikki Barry <ooblick () netpolicy com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:19:18 -0400 To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Latest target - scuba divers Both PADI and NAUI, the two largest scuba diving certification agencies in the world, have turned over student information from the past 3 years to the FBI. If you're a diver, you likely now have a little file at the FBI. ------ Forwarded Message From: "Jeff Nadler" <jeffn () padi com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:54:54 -0700 To: "Mikki Barry" <ooblick () netpolicy com> Subject: RE: I am very disappointed in PADI Dear Mikki, Thank you for contacting me regarding the FBI investigation. We share your personal liberties concerns and the privacy issue was an important consideration in addressing the FBI's request. At the same time, we were aware of at least one dive store owner who had told an FBI agent visiting his store that he was too busy to spend time compiling his records; the agent returned within several hours with a subpoena for the records. As you probably know, if our certification records were subpoenaed, we would be unable to demand any restrictions on the use of that information. Faced with that scenario, we decided the best approach was to cooperate, as long as the FBI agreed to certain conditions. Prior to our complying with their request, we received the FBI's agreement that: 1) this information is the proprietary property of PADI and its members; 2) it was provided to the FBI Counterterrorism Division for the express and single purpose of investigation into possible terrorist activities using scuba; 3) the information would not be used for any other purpose, and: once the Counterterrorism Division had completed its investigation, the information would be returned to PADI. I hope that this explanation demonstrates that we tried to do our very best to protect the privacy of PADI divers, in light of the very real likelihood of being subpoenaed for this information if we did not cooperate. Sincerely, Jeff Nadler PADI Vice President, Industry & Government Relations -----Original Message----- From: Mikki Barry [mailto:ooblick () netpolicy com] Sent: 11 June, 2002 3:46 PM To: Jeff Nadler Subject: I am very disappointed in PADI I likely cannot express how truly disappointed I am in PADI that you have decided upon yourselves to turn private information regarding dive student files and other personal information over to the FBI. This overbroad and invasive search into our privacy is unwarranted, and not backed by the checks and balances that our Constitution guarantees - namely a court order or subpoena. I expected more from PADI in protecting the privacy of your members and your students. Our civil liberties have been sorely violated. ------ End of Forwarded Message ------ End of Forwarded Message For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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