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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:04:31 -0500
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:47:47 -0600 From: Jim Brenton <brentonj () swbell net> Subject: RE: your posting To: "'Dennis L. Bark'" <bark () hoover stanford edu> Cc: farber () cis upenn edu Reply-to: brentonj () swbell net X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Mr. Bark, Here is the link to Washington Times article you requested: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020119-79003878.htm I have just returned home from my trip on Southwest Airlines and found your message waiting. My recent experience with airport security was interesting in the very least. At Kansas City, my computer bag full of cables, network hub, and some AA batteries, ignited the interest of the civilian scanners. Hence, I got to remove my shoes and totally empty out the bag. The bag and my shoes were most thoroughly examined for 15 mins including two trips through the X-ray machine and wipes to look for explosive residue. We turned on my computer and the folks seemed surprised to find WinNT screens, not Win 98 or something they were more familiar with. They didn't really understand the need or use of hub and my Cat 5 cables. Finally after final pat down and hand scan, I was allowed to pass. The only real damage was my fellow travelers received boarding numbers in the 1-30 range, while I received a pass with 121 on it. Since I was much later to arrive at the Southwest boarding gate where boarding numbers are assigned, I had a middle seat for the next 3 hours. There was an SPEC4 from 35th ID, KS ANG observing the whole affair but he was really more interested in making sure boarding pass numbers matched up with Southwest Airline's plastic passes. In Orlando, I stayed at an Embassy Suites near airport that also quartered about 20 FL ANG members on TDY to provide airport security. I understand that there were others at several other local airport hotels. The ANG is getting excellent rates on local hotels (troops are billeted two to a room) and working 12 hour shifts (14 hours counting guard mount and travel to/from hotel and airport). They do not receive any days off and they are putting in very long days to provide airport security. The Spec4 and SSGT I spoke with both indicated they had been there over four weeks and were now anxious to return back to their homes and jobs in FL. Both were extremely sharp, polite, and in a short discussion about their previous military assignments and backgrounds, very well suited for the task. They were not Military Police, but had instead received special training for task at hand. One was late 20s and other early 30s. Both had been previously deployed to Bosnia on peacekeeper duties while on active duty in Germany. Extremely sharp uniforms and exemplary behavior in hotel indicated a strong chain of command. My return trip via Orlando with my computer bag full of wires likewise attracted security attention, but the wait was only 5 mins and the bag and shoes only had to go through the X-ray once this time. FL ANG personnel were simply observing activity in main terminals and occasionally walking through the satellite facilities. Jim Brenton, CISSP Principal Network Security Architect Corporate Security -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L. Bark [mailto:bark () hoover stanford edu] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:33 PM To: brentonj () swbell net Subject: your posting Dear Mr. Brenton: I am unaware of the encounter of Gen Foss with airline security, and I would like to know about it (can you please tell me where to find a report). Concerning your own observations, you are absolutely right about the lack of knowledge of our own history. It's appalling, and over the long term, ignorance of our own history will contribute to destroying the cultural fabric of the United States. Worse than that, is that the majority of security personnel in our airports can't read English well enough to understand a well written history book in the first place. Moreover, they can't speak or understand the spoken word well enough to understand the answers to the questions they ask in gramaticaly incorrect English in the first place. Unfortunately, often now, when I am asked questions the individuals asking don't understand my response. And, as far as the young National Guard soldiers in the airports is concerned, heaven help us if trouble should start. From my observation of many of them during the last four months (I fly over 100,000 per year), the majority doesn't have a clue what they are doing. They are doing a lot of laughing and talking with each other; but they are not paying close attention. I was delighted to read your comments -- thank you! Dennis L. Bark, Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution
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