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IP: more on Google retaliates against comcast.net (fwd)
From: David Farber <dfarber () earthlink net>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:38:19 -0500
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Spannaus <tim () emdicium com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:13:42 To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: more on Google retaliates against comcast.net (fwd) Dave -- I am a Comcast subscriber, and while I can use the Google search engine, Microsoft blocks me from sending mail from the Comcast domain to WebTV subscribers. This is the email I received from WebTV customer support after email to my parents was blocked.
Thank you for contacting MSN TV. We understand your parents are not able to receive your emails as you have a comcast.net provider. We regret the inconvemnience caused. It sounds like your e-mail may not be getting to your parents because you are sending it from a domain that has been blocked by MSN TV service. MSN TV blocks certain domains that are known for sending large amounts of unsolicited e-mail, or Spam. That is not to say that you are sending Spam, but as long as your parents choose to leave the Spam Filter on, they will not be able to recieve e-mail from banned domain names.
At 02:01 PM 4/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jamie McCarthy <jamie () mccarthy vg> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:53:19 To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: Google retaliates against comcast.net (fwd)it looks like search engines will never be the same again.As the news report itself notes, this behavior is not new. Any web service that provides information that requires significant resources -- for example, doing a query on a database that indexes the entire internet! -- can easily be DoS'd (denial-of-serviced) by one idiot with a cable modem and a perl script. Why should Google allow thousands of dollars worth of equipment to be tied up for hours or days, providing data to one person for free? Providers of services that don't require user login have only one option: shutting off connections for a group of IP numbers, typically the idiot's modem pool. This will usually catch innocent users too. One can only hope there is a contact email address provided and a human staffer at the other end to rectify as much of the collateral damage as possible. Meanwhile, there are enough open HTTP proxies out there to allow the idiot with the perl script to bomb sites from literally thousands of proxies simultaneously. Such Distributed Denial of Service attacks appear to come from all over the net and are almost impossible to stop. My prediction is that open web proxies will be seen in a few years as open mail proxies are today: enablers of resource theft. And they will be stomped out by the same unpleasant blacklist tactics as we currently see being used against spam. The era of anonymous net access is in its final months, thanks to the idiots. -- Jamie McCarthy jamie () mccarthy vg For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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