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IP: final on RE: American Council of Trustees and Alumni
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:47:11 -0500
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:35:39 -0400 To: farber () cis upenn edu, ip-sub-1 () majordomo pobox com From: John Noble <jnoble () dgsys com> Subject: Re: IP: two RE: American Council of Trustees and Alumni The ACTA report is not just a "point of view". It is propaganda, and it is a lie, and it is intended to silence criticism. The ACTA is a group of trustees and alumni, headed up by VP Cheney's wife, who control university purse-strings and academic careers. The report says that "College and university faculty have been the weak link in America's response to the attack." The report lists 117 comments or incidents as evidence that academics are generally hostile to the US government "Indeed," the report says, "the message of much of academe was clear: BLAME AMERICA FIRST." The author, Anne Neal, says "For the most part, public comments in academia were equivocal and often pointing the finger at America rather than the terrorists." According to Neal, "It's hard for non-tenured professors to speak up when there's such a chorus on the other side." In fact, criticism of the government from any quarter, including academia, has been remarkably muted. There is no "chorus" of anti-Americanism -- just rare "equivocal" classroom comments that became "public comments" when ACTA or someone else makes them public only because they aren't unequivocally supportive of the government. Does anyone believe that patriots have been intimidated by anti-American sentiment on campus or anywhere else? It is a lie. The obscenity here is not that ACTA would criticize 117 professors that they disagree with. That's fair game. It is that they would broadly paint academia as "the weak link." The professors who might have an "equivocal" point of view are silenced, not by fear of criticism, but by fear that their comments will be used to tar the entire academic community. ACTA is doing exactly what it accuses its targets of doing -- using intimidation to silence dissent and even support that is only "equivocal." John Noble >>From: "Hiawatha Bray" <watha () monitortan com> >>To: <farber () cis upenn edu> >> >>I for one am heartily sick of people who accuse their critics of >>"censorship." I've glanced at the ACTA report and it seems to me rather >>overwrought and extreme in its assertions. But what of it? It's just a >>document expressing a particular point of view. However wrongheaded it >>might be, it doesn't pose a threat to anybody's freedom of speech. >>Certain academics have expressed various views on the war and other >>matters; the folks at ACTA respond. Last I heard, that was how freedom >>of speech was supposed to work.
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