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IP: RE: Don't Panic! RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 04:37:26 -0400



From: "Meeks, Brock (MSNBCi)" <Brock.Meeks () MSNBC COM>
To: "'farber () cis upenn edu'" <farber () cis upenn edu>
Subject: RE: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:09:36 -0700

My Ground Zero column of last week addresses the whole issue of this bill,
of which the thread below is a part.

Here's the URL:  http://www.msnbc.com/news/564512.asp

And the Broadband Played On...
Bill lets local phone monopoly infect high-speed data market

WASHINGTON, Apr 25th - The Baby Bells have cannibalized their siblings,
gorging themselves on bull market-fueled mergers and acquisitions faster
than venture capitalists could write ludicrous checks for ludicrous sums of
money funding even more ludicrous dot-com business plans. It was all legal;
all done under the radar, lost in the noise of baby billionaires and
$3,000-per-head B2B conferences held in Toledo. And it was done in the
spirit of competition and telecom "reform." And we all got screwed in the
process.

[snip]

 -----Original Message-----
From:   David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:25 PM
To:     ip-sub-1 () majordomo pobox com
Subject:        IP: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet



Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:24:28 -0700
To: farber () cis upenn edu, jeff () pulver com, gene.gaines () gainesgroup com
From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart () pobox com>
Subject: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet

My reading of the bill is much different from Pulver's.
It doesn't prohibit *everybody* from offering Voice over IP services -
it prohibits *Bell Operating Companies* who are currently
forbidden to offer conventional long-distance voice service
from offering internet-based voice on high-speed connections,
which would be an easy workaround.

The HR1542 may (ok, does) have other problems, but this isn't one of them.
It doesn't appear to prohibit them from offering VOIP over
lower-speed internet connections, such as IDSL, modems, or 256kbps DSL -
it defines high-speed as at least 384kbps in at least one direction,
but Congress doesn't typically think of everything....


You can look up the bill on http://thomas.loc.gov - search for "hr1542".

        (k) PROHIBITION ON MARKETING VOICE TELEPHONE SERVICES-
        Until the date on which a Bell operating company is
        authorized to offer interLATA services originating in an
        in-region State in accordance with the provisions of this section,
        such Bell operating company offering any high speed data service
        or Internet access service pursuant to the provisions of paragraph
        (7) of subsection (g) may not, in such in-region State market,
bill,
        or collect for interLATA voice telecommunications service obtained
        by means of the high speed data service or Internet access service
        provided by such company.

Disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer, though I've played a politician on TV.
I've got a variety of other opinions about this and current regulation,
which differ significantly from the Bell Companies', AT&T's, Tauzin's,
Cato's, Nader's, etc., so I'm sending this from my personal email account,
not work.

                Bill Stewart  bill.stewart () pobox com

-----Original Message-----

Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:22:45 -0400
From: Gene Gaines <gene.gaines () gainesgroup com>
To: farber () cis upenn edu
Subject: Bells attempt to control the Internet

SOS: House Telecom Subcommittee Approves Bill Regulating VoIP
Applications

Need your Help to Defeat HR 1542 and Keep Internet Communications
Regulation Free  ( http://pulver.com/hr1542 )


Hi There,

The "Tauzin-Dingell Broadband Bill" incorporates for the first time
Internet applications and broadband in the legacy telecom regulatory
framework. The bill will make it illegal to offer IP based voice services
over the Internet and give the Bells hooks to kill off remaining
broadband
competitors.

....


[The above from Jeff Pulver <jeff () pulver com>]


Gene Gaines
gene.gaines () gainesgroup com
Sterling, Virginia






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