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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:19:46 -0400



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From: Chris Savage <chris.savage () CRBLAW COM>
Subject:      Re: CALEA and (Re: Definition of information access - does 
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From: Chip Sharp [mailto:chsharp () CISCO COM]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:37 AM
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Subject: CALEA and (Re: Definition of information access -
does it fit?)

So if access to ISPs is "information access" this would imply
that ISPs are "Information Service Providers" and therefore CALEA does not
apply to them, even if they do happen to be providing a VoIP, no?

Well, not quite.  IIRC, the FCC ruled in an 8/99 (?) CALEA order that the
requirements of CALEA apply to carriers, which it defined as essentially
entities meeting the common law test for being a carrier (see NARUC v. FCC
from, I think, 1982 or so; also some FCC decisions under the "Norlight"
name).  So the question is whether an ISP doing VoIP meets the common law
definition of "carrier."

Note in this regard that the '96 Act defined the term "telecommunications
carrier" and related terms in such a way as to make clear that an entity can
be doing a lot of things, only some of which are "carrier" things, and that
carrier-like regulation only applies to the "carrier-like" things they are
doing.  This is good, in that it makes clear that a non-regulated entity
getting into the carrier business will not be thoroughly regulated by virtue
of that choice; only the carrier activities will be regulated.  OTOH it
opens the possibility that an ISP might be happily and totally non-regulated
as to all of its activities *except* VoIP, if its VoIP activities otherwise
meet the "carrier" criteria.

Now, that said, it may well be that something in the actual order on this
point will lend aid and comfort to one side or another of the VoIP debate.
But the mere fact that dial-up connections to ISPs are now, apparently, this
new thing called "information access" leaves that debate as murky as ever.

Chris S.


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