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IP: an interesting patent story>GeoWorks' IP claims could kill WAP
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:19:38 -0500
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:49:17 -0500 To: Dave Farber <GeoWorks'%20IP%20claims%20could%20kill%20WAP">farber () cis upenn edu> From: "Daniel J. Weitzner" <GeoWorks'%20IP%20claims%20could%20kill%20WAP">djweitzner () w3 org> Forwarded Text ---- Top story in Computergram Int'l: GeoWorks' Intellectual Property Claims Could "Kill WAP" The surprise claim made by GeoWorks last week that it has essential intellectual property rights (IPRs) for the wireless application protocol (WAP) could kill the burgeoning wireless internet data transfer specification, according to some industry figures and analysts. GeoWorks, which is a member of the WAP Forum, has said that companies that develop servers and software using wireless markup language - the basis of WAP - will have to pay it a licensing fee of $20,000 annually - with additional charges for WAP servers - if the companies have revenue of over $1m a year. If GeoWorks succeeds with its IPR claim and WAP software companies have to pay them fees they may start looking for cheaper alternatives. "Personally, I think that that will kill WAP and lead to a mad scramble for something that's free and universal," said Felix Lin, chairman of wireless software developer AvantGo Inc. Seamus McAteer, director of web strategies at Jupiter Communications, concurs, describing the GeoWorks licensing fee proposal - particularly the clause that says that WAP server developers should pay a $1 royalty for each seat or product including licensed software - as insane. GeoWorks says that its claim relates to a US patent it registered in June 1994, which relates to transforming wireless data so that it can be read on variety of mobile devices with larger or smaller screens - especially important for WAP servers pumping out data to a slew of different devices. GeoWorks says that it followed procedure, putting the claim for essential IPR to the WAP Forum in May 1999, and then got a team of lawyers to examine the patent who found it was used in WML. Bob Bogard, a spokesperson for GeoWorks said that last week's public announcement of intellectual property rights was no surprise for the WAP Forum. "They fully expected this sort of thing to happen," he said. However, Greg Williams, chairman of the WAP Forum disagreed. He said he was surprised by the public way GeoWorks put forward its claim. Companies in the WAP Forum generally settle licensing and cross-licensing deals between themselves, he said. As a member of the WAP Forum GeoWorks has to agree to "fair and reasonable" licensing terms for any WAP IPR it has. The issue will be if GeoWorks sticks to its guns and insists on the licensing fees and royalties it has laid down in its public statement. McAteer thinks that WAP Forum members such as Ericsson, Phone.com and others will fight against the fees "tooth and nail." "I'm very hopeful that fair and reasonable parties can work through this, it would be a shame if something like this derailed WAP," Williams said. Some other companies involved with the WAP Forum such as Phone.com that ComputerWire contacted refused to comment because they said they had not had chance to fully examine GeoWork's claims yet. Williams says that the members should get a "better sense" of the issues at the next WAP board meeting on February 9 in Rome, Italy. However, he could give no timescale for the 'issues' being resolved. -- Daniel J. Weitzner +1.617.253.8036(v) Technology and Society Domain Leader +1.617.258.5999(f) World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org/ MIT/LCS
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