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IP: U.K. law prof says HavenCo may be beyond reach of English law


From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:40:59 -0400



Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:35:13 -0700
To: politech () politechbot com
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Subject: FC: U.K. law prof says HavenCo may be beyond reach of English law


[This is courtsey of HavenCo CEO Sean Hastings, who had earlier emailed me 
to take issue with this post (http://www.politechbot.com/p-01272.html). 
--Declan]

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From: "Sean Hastings" <sean () havenco com>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan () well com>
Subject: FW: Daily Times
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:29:06 +0100

http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/08/08/x-timlwtlwt01009.html

   Tuesday August 8 2000
   A tiny, man-made island is causing an international incident, says
   Gary Slapper

   How a law-less 'data haven' is using law to protect itself

     When is a state not a state? When it is a playground on stilts in
     30ft of water, some might say, looking out at Sealand, the world's
     newest self-proclaimed state, off the Suffolk coast.

     The Government has apparently allowed itself to be painted into a
     corner over an intriguing issue of international law. A story that
     began in an apparently risible way in September 1967, and was
     nothing much more than a minor item of local news about a small
     eccentric family, has metamorphosed into an international incident.

[...]

     The commonly accepted criteria among jurists for determining
     whether an entity is a state are taken from the jus gentium - the
     law of nations. This law is derived from the Institutes of
     Justinian, the major treatise written by the command of the Roman
     Emperor Justinian and published in AD 533. One thorny problem for
     the Government is that according to the three major criteria of
     statehood, Sealand does appear to have a good claim.

     The requirements are: a national territory; a people coming
     together as a nation; and a sovereign state authority. It does not
     matter that it is only 932sq yd in size because there is no minimum
     area legally articulated for something to be a state. Vatican City
     is classified as a state even though it is minuscule. Neither is
     there a requirement that the population rises above a certain
     minimum. Nor is it an argument that the structure was created by
     the Government as it was legally terra nullis - abandoned land -
     when it was taken over.

     Article 1 of the Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of
     States, signed in 1933, itemises the same criteria as the jus
     gentium, plus the capacity to enter into relations with other
     states. Sealand appears also to have satisfied this criterion. If
     Sealand is an independent state, it could legitimately claim its
     own coastal waters and regulate its own airspace. The Government is
     also in difficulties over this because on two occasions it has
     appeared to endorse the idea that Sealand is both beyond its
     jurisdiction and has the status of a state.

[...]







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