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IP: Re:: Short changing their and our future.
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:36:56 -0400
and NO we don't offer stock options YET Dave Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:27:53 -0700 From: Craig Partridge <craig () aland bbn com> Dave: The problem of students dropping out for big paychecks is a serious one and runs all the way through the system. For instance, 3 of the 4 new Ph.D.s this year that I supervised or helped supervise went to industry research labs rather than academia. Why? Higher salaries and very attractive equity options. (Actually, UPENN got the 4th -- kudos to you and a question -- does UPENN offer stock options? :-)) Incidentally, the money my PhDs are getting offered strongly suggests that the additional degree is valued. The other problem, which the New York TImes article today discussed, is the changing perception of programming. Stunning quote stating a gap has appeared between theory and practice of computer science "... partly because of the growth of sophisticated new computer languages, like Java, with which programmers can draw on a prepackaged set of formulas and tools and simply plug them in, without a need for understanding the underlying theory of computer language." (http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/98/06/biztech/articles/25raid.html) This is not the first time I've heard this theory. Unfortunately it has two problems. First, who do you think writes those prepackaged libraries?? By and large, folks with serious computer science training. Second, many of the new object-oriented languages are very hard to debug fully if you don't have a deep understanding of the theory behind the language. That's not to say there isn't a certain amount of grind-it-out programming that needs to be done. There is. But, after the first couple of programming courses, any computer science program worth its salt is teaching a much richer set of skills. Craig Partridge Chief Scientist, BBN Technologies Consulting Asst. Professor, Stanford Univ.
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