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IP: global warming? from Risks
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:18:34 -0300
By the way the book Radical Egalitarianism by the late Prof. Aaron Wildavsky of UCB is a great book looking at cause based behavior djf Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:23:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Aaron M. Renn" <arenn () urbanophile com> Subject: Re: Global War[m|n|p|r]ing? You may be interested in knowing that Wentz and Schabel's corrections (of satellite records showing a global cooling trend) required some corrections. They did not take into account the east-west orbital drift of the satellites, only orbital decay. Also, they applied an average orbital decay value to all satellites instead of making a precise adjustment for each satellite when calculating their figures. The satellite researchers at NASA applied the corrected corrections to their data and still show a slight downward temperature drift. An overview of the results are available at: http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/notebook/essd13aug98_1.htm This page also mentions the fact that weather balloon data corroborates the satellite information, something the original posting omitted. The global warming phenomenon is by no means universally accepted by science, despite claims of "rampant evidence". The use of ozone layer results to discredit satellite cooling data is a logical fallacy which adds no hard evidence to support the global warming theory. A somewhat stronger form of that paragraph's thesis might have read "global cooling and ozone depletion data are both collected from satellites. The ozone depletion data was wrong, therefore the global cooling data is wrong". This is a false analogy. If valid, it would impinge on _any_ scientific research because virtually all methods of data collection have had errors in the past. Also, use of the term "faith" implies that those who believe the satellite cooling data are engaging in a religious instead of a scientific belief. The use of such loaded words is a well known propaganda technique. The risk? Logical fallacies or propaganda are often employed in debate, even over scientific issues. One should be careful to analyze all arguments to discover them. To learn more about logical fallacies, I suggest Stephen's Downes' guide to logical fallacies at: http://www.assiniboinec.mb.ca/user/downes/fallacy/index.htm To learn more about techniques of propaganda, see Aaron Delwiche's propaganda page at: http://carmen.artsci.washington.edu/propaganda/contents.htm Aaron M. Renn <arenn () urbanophile com> http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:27:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scot E. Wilcoxon" <sewilco () fieldday mn org> Subject: Re: Global War[m|n|p|r]ing? In RISKS-19.91, PGN pointed out the study in *Nature* that reported the realization that orbital decay caused global temperatures to be calculated as being slightly cooler than actual temperatures. The scientists operating the global temperature satellite experiment have thanked the author of the *Nature* article for pointing out this geometry problem. They also pointed out that the *Nature* article gave an estimated temperature based on an average of all eight satellites rather than being calculated for each individual satellite, and there were two other effects due to an east-west drift which could now be quantified. The adjusted global temperature change for 79-97 is now a cooling of 0.01 degrees C per decade. http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/notebook/essd13aug98_1.htm Scot E. Wilcoxon sewilco () fieldday mn org
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