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How big is the problem of recording all telephone conversations
From: David Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 1995 16:15:43 -0800
From: Gerald Maguire <maguire () it kth se> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:04:30 +0100 To: farber () central cis upenn edu Subject: recording I just posted the following - since I though about our discussion and did the calculations again yesterday: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is recording all calls feasible? To put it in perspective: for 10^8 lines at 100 minutes per day using 4T byte tapes (such as might be feasible from: CREO products Inc. 110-3700 Gilmore Way Burnaby, B.C. V5G 4M1 Canada [note they sold 1Tbyte tapes several years ago]) with 100 centers recording calls [~the number of main interexchange centers in the US] digitizing at 1 kbyte/sec [assuming reasonable LPC encoding, etc.] leads to 1.54 tapes per day per center or 560.64 tapes per year per center. But what if you went to higher data rates [for example 64Kbits/sec of an ISDN B channel, and 24 hours per day of traffic. It is still less that 177 tapes/day/center or less than 65,000 tapes per center per year. Since the true capacity needs lies somewhere between these two extremes (both due to data rates and due to call minutes/day) - it seems feasible to record all telephone calls in a country the size of the U.S. This is not to say that it is done, just that it is feasible [especially if each exchange must have facilites to provide redirects of a copy of any call - why not redirect them all]. Is it feasible to handle all these tapes? Many physical experiments generate 2,000 or more reels of tape per experiment Lots of other systems generate comparable data volumes (for example 50Mbits/s satellite sensors ==> ~4*10^3 Gbytes/day - comparable to about 1 minute of calling per phone for 10^8 phones) Chip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [see comments at the end!! djf] Here are the numbers etc. in DIF format to load into your favorite spreadsheet program: TABLE 0,1 "" VECTORS 0,11 "" TUPLES 0,23 "" DATA 0,0 "" -1,0 BOT 1,0 "US" 1,0 "one per every 2 persons" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" -1,0 BOT 1,0 "Number of lines" 1,0 "Number of minutes of calls" 1,0 "Bytes/second" 1,0 "Mbyes/day/line" 1,0 "Mbytes/monthly/line" 1,0 "MBytes/year- per line" 1,0 "Total Gbytes/day" 1,0 "Number of centers (distrinuted ecording)" 1,0 "GBytes/day/center" 1,0 "4T tapes/day/Center" 1,0 "4T Tapes/year" -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,1 V 0,1024 V 0,0.06144 V 0,1.8432 V 0,22.4256 V 0,6144 V 0,100 V 0,61.44 V 0,0.01536 V 0,5.6064 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,10 V 0,1024 V 0,0.6144 V 0,18.432 V 0,224.256 V 0,61440 V 0,100 V 0,614.4 V 0,0.1536 V 0,56.064 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,100 V 0,1024 V 0,6.144 V 0,184.32 V 0,2242.56 V 0,614400 V 0,100 V 0,6144 V 0,1.536 V 0,560.64 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,1440 V 0,1024 V 0,88.4736 V 0,2654.208 V 0,32292.864 V 0,8847360 V 0,100 V 0,88473.6 V 0,22.1184 V 0,8073.216 V -1,0 BOT 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 0,0 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,1 V 0,8192 V 0,0.49152 V 0,14.7456 V 0,179.4048 V 0,49152 V 0,100 V 0,491.52 V 0,0.12288 V 0,44.8512 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,10 V 0,8192 V 0,4.9152 V 0,147.456 V 0,1794.048 V 0,491520 V 0,100 V 0,4915.2 V 0,1.2288 V 0,448.512 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,100 V 0,8192 V 0,49.152 V 0,1474.56 V 0,17940.48 V 0,4915200 V 0,100 V 0,49152 V 0,12.288 V 0,4485.12 V -1,0 BOT 0,100000000 V 0,1440 V 0,8192 V 0,707.7888 V 0,21233.664 V 0,258342.912 V 0,70778880 V 0,100 V 0,707788.8 V 0,176.9472 V 0,64585.728 V -1,0 BOT 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" -1,0 BOT 1,0 "Sweden" 1,0 "one per person" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" -1,0 BOT 1,0 "Number of lines" 1,0 "Number of minutes of calls" 1,0 "Bytes/second" 1,0 "Mbyes/day/line" 1,0 "Mbytes/monthly/line" 1,0 "MBytes/year- per line" 1,0 "Total Gbytes/day" 1,0 "Number of centers (distrinuted ecording)" 1,0 "GBytes/day/center" 1,0 "4T tapes/day/Center" 0,0 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,1 V 0,1024 V 0,0.06144 V 0,1.8432 V 0,22.4256 V 0,614.4 V 0,100 V 0,6.144 V 0,0.001536 V 0,0.56064 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,10 V 0,1024 V 0,0.6144 V 0,18.432 V 0,224.256 V 0,6144 V 0,100 V 0,61.44 V 0,0.01536 V 0,5.6064 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,100 V 0,1024 V 0,6.144 V 0,184.32 V 0,2242.56 V 0,61440 V 0,100 V 0,614.4 V 0,0.1536 V 0,56.064 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,1440 V 0,1024 V 0,88.4736 V 0,2654.208 V 0,32292.864 V 0,884736 V 0,100 V 0,8847.36 V 0,2.21184 V 0,807.3216 V -1,0 BOT 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" 1,0 "" -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,1 V 0,8192 V 0,0.49152 V 0,14.7456 V 0,179.4048 V 0,4915.2 V 0,100 V 0,49.152 V 0,0.012288 V 0,4.48512 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,10 V 0,8192 V 0,4.9152 V 0,147.456 V 0,1794.048 V 0,49152 V 0,100 V 0,491.52 V 0,0.12288 V 0,44.8512 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,100 V 0,8192 V 0,49.152 V 0,1474.56 V 0,17940.48 V 0,491520 V 0,100 V 0,4915.2 V 0,1.2288 V 0,448.512 V -1,0 BOT 0,10000000 V 0,1440 V 0,8192 V 0,707.7888 V 0,21233.664 V 0,258342.912 V 0,7077888 V 0,100 V 0,70778.88 V 0,17.69472 V 0,6458.5728 V -1,0 EOD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The suprise is that even going to 24 hours/phone/day and a complete B channel (with no coding) - the data volume is not infeasible. It would be modestly expensive (about $260M/year for tapes [the 1Tbyte tapes were roughly $4k each, but given media prices it should now be about 4T for the same price]. The drives used to cose $250K each, the cost of drives is about 2x the cost of the tapes, thus leading to less tha $1B for 10^8 B channels 24 hours per day! [In some circles this would be viewed as a to small to merit an line of its own for appropriation purposes.] Enjoy, Chip
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