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IP: On applied realpolitics
From: Dave Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 17:56:59 -0500
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 13:33:24 -0800 From: John Gilmore <gnu () toad com> Brett Glass <Brett_Glass () ccgate infoworld com> said,
As with past legislation, these organizations have demonstrated that they are more concerned with political expediency than with protecting the public whose interests they claim to serve.
Hi Brett. I'd be glad to take lessons from you in how to protect the public without doing things that are politically expedient. Please step up and single-handedly show us how you can derail Congress from censoring the Internet. You can even bring a friend or two to help. Various groups have taken various tacks. EPIC tends to take a liberal hard line, which is commendable but predictable (and too easy for the government to ignore, in my opinion). CDT seems to be showing a tendency to back industry positions, with less regard for philosophical issues; this means they can cut deals and swing votes, but the deals lack consistency (in my opinion). EFF tries to be true to the Net's largely libertarian philosophy, while trying to teach it to skeptics rather than alienating them by being too strident (also in my opinion). When it comes down to votes in Congress, the Internet community can't dictate; we have to convince. If a Congressman White who actively tries to make his bills Constitutional gets nothing but trouble from us, he won't try to help us next time. EFF didn't thank him for trying to impose moral or religious censorship. We said that current laws were sufficient. (Personally I think everyone, adult or child, should be free of all government constraints on what they can read or write -- in all media). We thanked him for trying to stay within the boundaries that the Supreme Court has set as it has mediated this issue over the last two hundred years. Our lawyers believe that the specific language used to define "harmful to children" in the White bill has a specific legal meaning, developed through years of court cases, which is much less harmful to the net than the phrase "indecent" in the Exon bill. White's definition would cause fewer frivolous lawsuits. We could be right, we could be wrong. Lawyers or laymen who can educate us better should send us email. John Gilmore co-founder, Electronic Frontier Foundation [this email message is my personal opinion and has not been checked with any agency or group, including EFF]
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