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Re: IEEE Royalty
From: David Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 18:41:27 -0400
From: gnu () toad com PTo: farber () central cis upenn edu (David Farber), gnu () toad com Subject: Re: IEEE Royalty Date: Sun, 18 Sep 94 15:21:22 -0700 I spoke with Andrew Odlyzko at Crypto '94 last month; he's been studying online publication of scientific journals. Many folks are moving to online self-publication of referreed journals, because the traditional publishers have a long history of soaking academics with premium prices (as well as for many other good reasons, such as turnaround time, searchability, and cost of storage). Here's a brief quote, out of context, from his paper, "Tragic loss or good riddance? The impending demise of traditional scholarly journals", available in condensed and long versions, by email from amo () research att com: "...good mathematics libraries spend well over $100,000 per year just for journal subscriptions, and the cost of staff and space is usually at least twice that. Budgets that large are bound to be scrutinized for possible reductions." See also http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/DataSources/bySubject/Electronic_Journals.html
Pam at Dollar Bill has told me that IEEE now charges a royalty of $1 per paper per student for including in a course pack a paper published by them!
With this move, IEEE is apparently trying to accelerate the move away from publishing with them. Or did they not realize that the same professors who they are charging $1/student/paper are also the AUTHORS of the papers? They can take their `valuable' information elsewhere in future. It's always amazed me that authors of papers, who own the copyright in the papers, would sign it away to somebody like IEEE or Springer- Verlag. I can see giving them the first serial rights, but not the entire ownership! IEEE practices this not only for conferences, but also for standards documents, which are completely written by volunteers. Then these documents are sold, on paper, at high prices, and the online versions that the volunteers have spent years passing around on the Internet for editing are thrown away because the copyright has been given away. John Gilmore
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