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HyperNetwork conference report part 2 of 2
From: David Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:55:46 -0500
controller or filter for such a broadband information base easy enough to use. This is something that could be looked into in field tests. But the emphasis of commercial systems is to provide the *current* type of service on *demand* -- not a fundamentally different type of service that is truly interactive. All this means that there is little awareness or interest in two-way interactive systems that are in fact two-way: as much room on the output channel as the input channel. There is some growing awareness that such real interactivity has not yet been seen as a major business opportunity. This is unfortunate. One thing that is changing is that the public interest in the Net is changing. There's always something in the news these days about the Net. Indeed, the Net has gone through big change. Nowadays, the Net is really just the interconnection of many separate commercial nets. Hundreds of businesses are now offering online services through the Net. Here are some dimensions about this growth. There are now dozens of guide books available about the Net for first-time users, containing all sorts of information previously known only by the specialists and hard-core users. There has been a rapid growth in the number of public-access systems. These systems are now selling access to the Net at great prices. There are new Net protocols, such as WWW and Mosaic and Gopher, making easily available great depositories of information. And finally, major services like America On-Line (AOL) are planning to offer full Net services and access this year. So, in the U.S., there are two *different* visions of the Infobahn. One is put forward by commercial providers, and it envisions something along the lines of 500 channels, with high-bandwidth delivery, and low- bandwidth response. The other is put forward by the Net as it exists today: truly equal two-way interactive communication. The EFF supports the Net's vision, because it believes that this vision is better for the public interest compared to the 500-channel approach. What are the lessons of the Net? What can it teach us? First, something about centralization: central control of the system is not necessary. Technically, effectively, and socially, control is given to the local providers and is enforced at the local level. Second, there's a fundamental difference between fixed providers with controlled content as compared to point to point communication, which is controlled by no one, really. Thus, the interests of democracy are served by the very architecture of the Net. People's interest will propel the development of the system. A question: how do we achieve this? Gore outline several principles: 1) privatization: let the private sector build and run it; 2) competition: local monopolies should change into regulated competitive markets; 3) universal service: every citizen should have some way to get to the network, that is, income and geography should not be barriers to access; and 4) open access: all content providers should have the right to connect to the network, and everyone should have the right to be a content provider (i.e. the system should work along the lines of a common carrier). Another question: will these principles be turned into law? There are still major business, technical, and political uncertainties. For example, is this a real market? Will these technologies work? Can it be pulled off? So, really, an activist, optimistic approach is needed. Complications: the government is helpful in many ways in sorting through these issues. Certainly, it has an important role to play. But as far as privacy issues go, that's another story. And the EFF opposes the government on many things in this regard, like Clipper. Finally, it's important to understand that what we're talking about here is a global information infrastructure. It's not just national. So, international competition is necessary and Japan has a major role to play. 3.8. Harry Saal, Smart Valley Now is not the time to define a global system. We must experiment with things locally, to find out about the global issues. Here's a list: Top-Down --> BAD! Bottom-Up --> GOOD! ------------------ -------------------- push pull pick winner market decides, through competition central decision distributed trials supply side demand generation pork barrel open process government funded private investment risk averse innovative The reality: bottom-up is much messier, but it also works much better! Here's the mess: - too many players - chance and likeliness of market and technological failure With top-down, there's the uncontrollablity of changes in leadership. And this isn't good when we need to define a social agenda and leave it up to a system that can change unpredictably. We must recognize, accept, and use to our advantage the reality that we aren't good visionaries. We learn through experience. So, the system we hope to achieve as a bottom-up approach is a good souffle': - high quality - industry-wide support - socially acceptable - market tested [Some questions from audience.] Q: What's the investment so far in Smart Valley? Where does the money come from? How is it split up? A: There are two parts to this answer. First, there's the actual investment in Smart Valley, which is after all a non-profit coordinating organization. Then there are the projects. For the first part, there are very many member companies, and the membership per year is about $1 million. For the projects, there have been several hundred million dollars invested so far. Most of this has been private investment, with only a small portion coming from the government. Q: Bottom-up is okay when things are going well, but when things aren't, like in crises, where industry might rather flee, the government can muddle through. So what about then? A: There aren't only the two rigid choices between government and the private sector. Smart Valley has a certain view of things, and we feel many in the government agree: partnership between industry and government can be successul. And let me say that people *do* feel there is a cirsis *now*, and they're working very hard, and in partnerships. 3.9. David Farber, University of Pennsylvania Let me start off by talking about Clipper. I think it's the constitutional equivalent of an earthquake. Earthquakes destroy parts of highways, making them unusable and difficult to rebuild. Also, they destroy people's faith. Clipper would do that to the Infobahn: if it goes through, people will lose their faith. They'll just not use the thing. Now, let me talk about Liberty Net. Gigabit networks are my usual topic. Liberty Net is at the opposite end. It's being driven by community, not industry. While the Delaware Valley, with Philadelphia at its core, has a high concentration of universities, information centers, libraries, etc., the area has seen hard times. The role of Liberty Net is to build information streets into the city centers of Philadelphia -- and elsewhere -- to create and improve a better sense of community. It's being built by community leaders, such as teachers, public radio, etc., who don't yet see the relevance of the NII to public life. The result over the last year has been the creation of a real network. There have been contributions from area universities, for technical know-how, and local businesses, who are trying to improve the community among themselves. For example, on an experimental basis, new entrepreneurs can communicate with Liberty Library and Science Centers to consult and get support on technology. The universities offer computing power, with such things as community BBS's and event and offerings rosters. It's really "power to the people" thinking. Here's the current state of Liberty Net. It's been launched, there are services, there's a staff with a director, and it has a budget, though it's a small amount of money. In fact, this is what the goal is: nothing extravagant, keep it small and responsive. In a real sense, Liberty Net is a small-town network, similar in sense to the small-town meeting- house metaphor. Liberty Net should be fully launched by 1996, as a fully independent community network. Interestingly, it would then be fifty year ago, in 1946, when the first digital computer, the Eniac, came online at the University of Pennsylvania. 3.10. Edmund Tham, Singapore IT 2000 Project [Mr. Tham presented a report on the creation of the "intelligent island" using advanced network and computer technologies. Example uses include connecting shipping companies with the docks, customs offices, and other concerned parties to make the port system work much more efficiently, without the need to put things on paper and route them around manually or through the mail. More in the proceedings.] 3.11. COARA members [Several reports were presented in a round-robin, whirlwind fashion on the usages of networking and computers by owners of a construction firm, a hotel, a store, and others. It was quite an impressive demonstration of the breadth and depth that networking and computing have penetrated in the community. The value of COARA in general, as a new community and means of doing business in Oita, was really made clear. More in the proceedings.] 3.12. Masamichi Tanabe, VP, Multimedia Planning and Promotion, NTT
From early January, NTT decided to work on the basic ideas of its
approach to the Infobahn. But don't get the impression that this was sudden: we've been preparing for this for some time. In our view, cable and the assorted technologies associated with convergence will soon become like a household appliance. The competition in the US in this area is much more developed, largely because of the breakup of AT&T 10 years ago. And now, cable companies there are wondering what to do. Because of the technology, we see many opportunities. First, we will have to continue being able to provide normal telephone service perfectly. But after that, think of arealess and borderless companies. We've been thinking about services, but we need competition. So, we need to change our attitude towards competition as well as affordable services. Finally, there are five points I want to make. 1) We want to strengthen our promotion of multimedia. We've been studying multimedia in many areas, but we need to combine our efforts. 2) We need to promote the use of the backbone network. We started this in 1993, and by the end of the summer of 1994, we expect a network of 165 Mb/s for customers. We already have an optical fiber network all over the country. But we need to test this network using some distributed systems. 3) We need to look at the services available now to households, using current telephone lines. We plan to look at this in more detail in a year or so. 4) By 2000, we should get all this figured out, but by 2015 we hope to have all homes connected to the network. Last, 5) having the network is not enough. We need to have the interface. We need to have the users on board as well. 3.13. Katsuhiro Onoda, VP, C&C Systems Market Dev. Div., NEC We've been working on the Oita Digital House project. Talking about multimedia, NEC has been thinking about it since 1973. That's when we first thought of computers and communication. Since then, we've seen many changes. The computer can now work on many things, like multimedia, and it can work to be sensitive to humans. Now, in our studies, we need to pay attention to the individual's power and interest. But this is why we need something like B-ISDN. We need to move to presenting information. Not just text, in order to explain, but also images and sound, in order to *convince*. The network is important, but it isn't so important. It's what will be *on* the network that's important: the services. We have an experiment in Kansai. We are looking at two things, one, information and broadcasting, and another, sending characters over B- ISDN. For B-ISDN, there will be business and other uses. In the autumn, we'll use things like HDTV and electronic libraries in a set of 15 experiments to take place in the Kansai Science City. The MPT will have a conference and observe and discuss the experiements. This is the dawning of the ISDN world. By 1997, the public version of this network will be created. What will the services be? We need to arrive at some collective wisdom of what will be created. But we can only start with a small network. The key question is then, how can we make this grow? Perhaps this: start with a set of points, add new points to make a line, then planes. So, we should start next with a focal point, and then branch out. Maybe this means moving to business next. The U.S. NII is an example. Is it being driven by Internet? The focal approach is bottom-up. But who fights the battle? The people who are involved. The job now is to make a business out of information exchange. And who has the information in the local area? Business and the government! So, maybe the way to move is to cut them out of the picture, connecting people together, to make new businesses. We heard the example of Liberty Net: this is not a government effort, but a community effort. In Japan, this effort would likely not work. So, we have to work together. We need leaders, with fire in their mind, to kindle the needed efforts. Let them fight the battles and pave the way for what is needed. And we need financial support: government efforts won't be enough, so it must also be private investment. For example, the "Telecottage" efforts: 60 in the UK and many, perhaps 40, in France. Also, there are 10 in Australia. A telecottage is based in the community, and it connects people together with each other. It promotes new business, it is community based, with business services handle by people on the network. A new community can be created through cooperation with others. 3.14. Hirofumi Takanashi, Manag. Director, General Manager, Multimedia Systems Lab, Fujitsu Laboratories [Presentation of the Monster workstation. More in proceedings.] 3.15. Koichi Utsumiya, Professor, Oita University [Discussion of connecting together local, regional, and national networks, using the Internet as an example. More in proceedings.] 3.16. Other [Three other sets of meetings followed. The first session focused on trying to understand what multimedia is, what is means for society, and how it is being used *today*. Some examples: Kevin Kelly from WIRED magazine talked about the "four facets of distributed being." Hajime Nonogaki from Fujitsu talked about user behavior in Cyberspace, and Fusako Hirabayashi addressed a similar theme with his talk about "evangelizng and evangelism on the Net." A very interesting presentation was given by Yoichiro Kawaguchi of Tsukuba University on combining artificial life and networking to make art. This session went very late into the evening.] [The next session talked about the realm of the citizenry, corporations, industry, and networking. Really, this was about the evolution of citizens' interaction with each other through such things as virtual communities, and about the evolution of traditional media. Howard Rheingold of the Whole Earth Review and the Well talked about his ideas of building virtual communities, as presented in his new book. Representatives from Asahi Broadcasting, NHK, and Nikkei Newspaper also talked about how the mass media will likely change as cyberspace becomes more pervasive. ] [In the wrap-up session, the talk became more rarefied, as discussion led to discussion of global networking. High-level visions of the development of the information infrastructure were related by a member of COARA and a researcher from the Nomura Research Institute. This latter presentation was noteworthy for its broad, national scope, focusing on an "Information New Deal Initiative" for Japan, tying in again with the theme of a social infrastructure. Finally, somewhat baffling and pesimistic vision about the nature of cultural evolution and the loss of distinction was presented by Fumihiro Nonomura of Knowledge and Experience. But the idea at the heart of this particular talk, that the Infobahn will tend to flatten cultural diversity, possibly at some harm, is something that is worth serious consideration.] [Note that more on these sessions can be found in the proceedings.] 4. Conclusion Let me begin my conclusion with this recent news article: TOKYO, JAPAN, 1994 MAR 8 (NB) -- The Japanese Posts & Telecommunication Ministry says it will start an experiment involving high-speed multimedia data transmission in cooperation with private firms. It is called the Global Giga Network and will be completed by March 1995. The Global Giga Network project aims to support a data transmission rate of 10 gigabits per second. The network project will use supercomputers, ATM (asynchronous transfer mode) switching devices, and various databases. It will be used in a variety of fields, such as videoconferencing, remote medical diagnosis, and the exchanging of data on environmental pollution. To begin with, the network will be connected between computers of the Posts & Telecommunication Ministry, NTT, KDD, and NHK (Japan Broadcasting Cooperation) via NTT's fiber optics. The Ministry, NTT, and KDD have a research institute for telecommunications. NHK also has a research institute for broadcasting. The Ministry intends to request the participation of research laboratories, universities and private firms in Japan and abroad. It is expected that Japanese computer makers, including NEC, Fujitsu and IBM Japan, will also participate in the project. There can be no doubt that such an effort represents a sincere effort by the government to help in the development of the Infobahn in Japan. It is also sensible to think that many important technology and policy lessons will be learned from this project. But the last paragraph indicating an expectation of major companies to join in on this effort gives rise to some concern about government intentions. It seems likely that once becoming participants, companies in this effort will be guided by a prescribed architecture -- rather than being guided by market forces. As many of the speakers at the conference commented, such a top- down approach may be the wrong one to take if the greatest success is to be achieved. Instead, the markets of the Infobahn should be allowed to develop naturally, using the bottom-up approach, even though, as some speakers acknowledged, such a method may be difficult to apply in the Japanese system. Government can play a pivotal role in promoting such competition. For example, with respect to the above Global Giga Network, rather than promoting a particular architecture or even network per se, the government could develop through deregulation and selective funding an open, level playing-field for information services. An invitation to companies to participate would be unnecessary, since the chance to standarized proprietary architectures coupled with a general profit motive would be sufficient. Another role that government can play is demonstrated by the successes in Oita. These, as highlighted by the conference, show that community networking does work in Japan. Moreover, these successes are being derived from partnership between government and industry at the local level with national support. Valuable experience is being gained and new markets are being developed and explored in Oita. People, as individuals at the local level, are feeling the impact of such efforts in their daily lives. The project also shows that through such efforts, many important lessons about the particular nature of the needs for computers and communication in Japan can be learned. The debate about Infobahn issues in Japan is healthy, and the success of the conference demonstrates that finding a winning policy approach for successfuly leading the convergence of networking, computer, and media technologies is possible and worthwhile. Especially, vigorous promotion of local networking throughout Japan may be the most promising avenue for achieving the greatest overall success.
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