Interesting People mailing list archives
Re: Mars Observer (Neumann, RISKS-14.87)
From: Lee Mellinger <leem () tsunami Jpl Nasa Gov>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 20:29:45 GMT
Just a few comments. I'm on the Mars Observer project, and some of the information published in public sources has been somewhat misleading or incorrect. First, the spacecraft did not cost $1B, is was about $300M, the Titan booster was about $500M and ground systems and ops about $200M. In NASA's new way of doing business all costs are lumped together, so to make a fair comparison to other projects, you must understand that the costs quoted in the past did not cover the launch and sometimes not the ground system. Second, the communications with the spacecraft were not "disrupted" [actually David Perlman in the Chron said Pike noted that Mission Control engineers at JPL had ``lost contact with the Mars Observer'' --- PGN] as John Pike has said, nor "interrupted", they were intentionally turned-off. The transmitter beam voltage was shut down to protect the filament when the fuel and oxidizer pyro valves were blown to pressurize the tanks. The beam voltage was supposed to be turned back on after the tank pressurization event by the command sequence stored in the SCP, the spacecraft control processor. We do not konw what happened after the beam-off was executed because the downlink was not seen again, and that is all we know for sure. We have been commanding a series of events, presuming that certain scenarios have occurred. None has been successful as far as we know. We continue to send commands because the Command Detector Unit is connected to the Low Gain Antennas and do not require precise pointing by the spacecraft to achieve command reception. We do not know that whatever happened, happened when the pyro valves were fired because that did not occur until sometime after the beam voltage was turned off. There was a time interval to allow sufficient cooling of the filament. We are at this moment waiting for the expiration of the the secondary command loss timer, which will reconfigure the spacecraft telecom to 10bps and the Low Gain Antennas for downlink. That will occur (assuming that no commands have be accepted since last Friday) at 93/238-21:56:35 UTC, that is today, the 27th at 14:56:35 PDT. Lee F. Mellinger, Caltech/Jet Propulsion Laboratory - NASA, 4800 Oak Grove Dr. Pasadena, CA 91109 818/354-1163 leem () jpl-devvax JPL NASA GOV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 17:15:33 -0400 From: stern () deshaw com (Michael Stern) Subject: Re: Mars Observer (RISKS-14.87) Unfortunately I can not provide the names of my sources for this material, as it would not be fair to them. Treat anonymous sources with appropriate skepticism; I think you'll find this an interesting tidbit nonetheless. Apparently the tank pressurization system on the Observer was tested exactly once, and it "blew up." Whether this phrase is meant to imply an explosion or merely a bad leak is an exercise left to the reader. NASA had one spare tank. Result: the Observer was launched with the second tank, with no further testing or development. /stern
Current thread:
- Re: Mars Observer (Neumann, RISKS-14.87) Lee Mellinger (Aug 26)