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RE: DoS "Probing" on one of our hosts


From: "Cook, Christopher S." <Christopher.Cook () honeywell-tsi com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:12:26 -0400

To me, that pattern sounds a lot more like someone's hacked a server and set up a warez site.  Granted, we don't know 
anything definitive, but if the high volume periods generally happen in the middle of the night, I wouldn't be 
surprised.

See if you can put a sniffer on the outbound connection (Sniffer is my commercial favorite) to find the endpoints.  
There are lots of reasons your IDS isn't raising alarms: the system that was hacked was already an FTP server, or if 
your IDS isn't
monitoring common protocols from servers, or the IDS system doesn't see the traffic going to the hacked system, et al.

Chris Cook
Honeywell TSI

These are my opinions, not those of Honeywell. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kunz [mailto:chrislist () de-punkt de] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:37 AM
To: incidents () securityfocus com

Harlan Carvey wrote:
I'm very interested to see what information you can
provide on this event, to show that it was, in fact, a
DoS attack.  

Uhm, I'm quite positive that 97.8 mBit coming in through our uplink are 
a pretty good indicator for an attack.

And by "probing" I meant that maybe the attacker only tried to determine 
our maximum bandwidth for a larger-scale attack, since the DoSes stopped 
fairly soon without any outer influence.

--ck

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