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Re: DoS "Probing" on one of our hosts


From: Chris Calvert <chris () idaemon ca>
Date: 30 Jun 2003 07:32:01 -0600

Hi Chris

DoS attack duration can vary considerably.  I've seen attacks that last
over a day or two, it really depends on how persistent the attacker is
and how robust the target is.  100 Mbit attacks might bring down a small
hosting service, or get shrugged off by a target on a larger pipe.

Get a capture of the traffic and do some analysis.  If you are being
hammered with a connectionless protocol such as UDP or ICMP then there
is no way for you, the destination of the traffic, to determine the
source if it has been spoofed, however you might be able to get useful
data from a capture regardless.  Try tools such as Ethereal,for a bit of
help analyzing the traffic. For example, you might be getting hit with
huge packets which saturate your Internet connection and/or inbound
interface, or you may be getting hit with small packets but at a
packet/second rate that your switch, modem, interface, or whatever
cannot handle.  There may be no signatures to detect, you might simply
be the target of a brute force traffic DoS.

Regards,

Chris

On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:41, Christopher Kunz wrote:
Hey,

we have been encountering three short DoS attacks during the weekend - 
each one around 1 hour in length and with about 100mbit worth of 
bandwidth. So far, we've yet to determine even the most basic stuff, 
since we don't seem to have any logging. I have two questions regarding 
this:
1. isn't one hour a pretty short time for a DoS? I've seen attacks on 
other nets lasting for hours, sometimes up to a day...
2. is there any tool to determine the source IPs of the attack (even if 
they're spoofed, I'd like to see _anything_)? Snort sits on the attacked 
host and happily reports SQL/Slammer and other trivial stuff, but goes 
through one of the attacks without picking any signatures up.

Regards,

--ck
-- 
Chris Calvert <chris () idaemon ca>


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