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Issues with Yahoo! Voice Chat
From: Kristy Westphal <westpk () BUZZEO COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:11:50 -0700
Hello! We seem to have encountered an issue with Yahoo! Voice chat, and I was wondering if anyone else has seen this as well. Here is the pattern we are seeing: Something within our network initiates a session with one of the various voice chat servers hosted at Exodus.Net. I say "something" because I have tracked down a few of the people who are initiating the traffic (reliable sources), and they say that they aren't even using voice chat or even chat! What happens is that once the conversation is initiated (from either TCP source port 5000 or 5001 to some 60000 port at Exodus), and then the designated voice chat server comes back bombarding us with udp packets (source port 5000, dest port some 60000 variation) for several hours. It acts like kind of a mini-DOS as the packets all get rejected at the firewall. The only initiating packet I can capture seems to be an TCP ACK packet going to port 5001 on the voice chat server, nothing else. Following is a summary of some what we have seen over the past several weeks: Source First Last Type Port Protocol # of Attempts 209.1.225.171 10/06/2000 13:27:48 10/06/2000 15:05:33 Denied Packet(s) 62458 udp 16115 209.1.225.171 10/06/2000 15:53:59 10/06/2000 16:28:24 Denied Packet(s) 63218 udp 10351 209.1.225.115 10/06/2000 16:37:42 10/06/2000 18:20:42 Denied Packet(s) 64457 udp 22859 209.1.225.115 10/10/2000 13:43:50 10/10/2000 19:33:03 Denied Packet(s) 64378 udp 17856 209.1.225.171 10/11/2000 08:10:30 10/11/2000 08:23:24 Denied Packet(s) 64763 udp 606 209.1.225.115 10/11/2000 13:17:40 10/11/2000 16:28:44 Denied Packet(s) 62876 udp 41035 209.1.225.171 10/11/2000 17:31:10 10/11/2000 17:53:24 Denied Packet(s) 61566 udp 8787 209.1.225.115 10/12/2000 07:50:51 10/12/2000 08:13:30 Denied Packet(s) 62403 udp 3913 209.1.225.115 10/12/2000 13:46:56 10/12/2000 14:43:05 Denied Packet(s) 63349 udp 5945 209.1.225.115 10/13/2000 11:59:00 10/13/2000 12:01:13 Denied Packet(s) 62182 udp 646 209.1.225.116 10/13/2000 12:01:38 10/13/2000 12:11:32 Denied Packet(s) 62781 udp 3146 209.1.225.116 10/13/2000 12:17:46 10/13/2000 13:11:57 Denied Packet(s) 64083 udp 4149 209.1.225.116 10/13/2000 15:08:45 10/13/2000 16:05:36 Denied Packet(s) 62804 udp 20527 209.1.225.115 10/13/2000 16:11:14 10/13/2000 16:45:46 Denied Packet(s) 63807 udp 6903 209.1.225.116 10/13/2000 17:00:35 10/13/2000 17:19:42 Denied Packet(s) 62605 udp 347 209.1.225.116 10/13/2000 17:31:23 10/13/2000 17:35:59 Denied Packet(s) 64925 udp 1874 209.1.225.116 10/16/2000 09:11:31 10/16/2000 09:22:52 Denied Packet(s) 63613 udp 3985 209.1.225.172 10/16/2000 09:25:17 10/16/2000 09:49:42 Denied Packet(s) 61046 udp 140 209.1.225.116 10/16/2000 10:07:20 10/16/2000 13:02:05 Denied Packet(s) 62057 udp 6935 209.1.225.172 10/16/2000 13:27:20 10/16/2000 13:44:51 Denied Packet(s) 64087 udp 1034 209.1.225.172 10/16/2000 14:17:22 10/16/2000 14:48:49 Denied Packet(s) 63723 udp 1578 209.1.225.172 10/16/2000 14:53:32 10/16/2000 15:00:35 Denied Packet(s) 61367 udp 1492 209.1.225.172 10/16/2000 15:06:23 10/16/2000 15:08:17 Denied Packet(s) 62517 udp 283 209.1.225.116 10/16/2000 15:12:54 10/16/2000 15:37:59 Denied Packet(s) 63423 udp 1290 209.1.225.173 10/16/2000 16:04:19 10/16/2000 17:23:53 Denied Packet(s) 63645 udp 1623 209.1.225.172 10/17/2000 15:14:32 10/17/2000 15:54:37 Denied Packet(s) 61906 udp 3069 209.1.225.173 10/17/2000 16:01:56 10/17/2000 16:55:04 Denied Packet(s) 64068 udp 6617 209.1.225.173 10/17/2000 14:14:18 10/17/2000 15:11:27 Denied Packet(s) 62985 udp 15076 209.1.225.173 10/17/2000 13:59:56 10/17/2000 14:11:34 Denied Packet(s) 63365 udp 4447 My questions are these: 1) Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so, 2) How did you effectively stop this type of traffic- or did you? We don't want to completely block Yahoo Chat, nor do we necessarily want to block these voice chat sites. I have contacted Exodus, and they are saying that this is normal traffic for a voice chat session. My gut feeling is that there is some sort of bug in Yahoo's software or other web site because I can't confirm that we are even using it here (can't deny totally either-but this behavior seems highly abnormal to me!!!) Ideas? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!! Kristy Westphal Security Administrator Buzzeo Buzzeo--Embracing the Internet
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