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Re: more weird traceroutes


From: securityguru () HOTMAIL COM (Security Guru)
Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:53:35 CDT


Normally, you don't see decreasing TTL's in a scan for proxies.  I think the
original assessment is correct - a traceroute disguised as a proxy scan.
The other clue is that the target address is constant.  Typically I see
about 2-4 packets per target on a scan.

From: Chad Thunberg <chadth () OBFUSTECH COM>
Reply-To: Chad Thunberg <chadth () OBFUSTECH COM>
To: INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Re: more weird traceroutes
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:09:17 -0700

these aren't traceroutes, they are scans for proxies.

-Chad

-----Original Message-----
From: Incidents Mailing List [mailto:INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On
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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:51 AM
To: INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: more weird traceroutes


How about this.  A traceroute (sort of) masquarading as RingZero!
It started with this:

00:50:49.091588 212.209.62.2.1040 > 142.62.0.108.80: S 79134:79134(0) win
8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 18, id 16384)
00:50:49.091774 212.209.62.2.1040 > 142.62.0.108.80: S 79134:79134(0) win
8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 17, id 16384)
...
00:50:49.093137 212.209.62.2.1040 > 142.62.0.108.80: S 79134:79134(0) win
8192 <mss 1460> (DF) [ttl 1] (id 16384)

The above pattern was repeated a total of 4 times with only the ip id
changing.
This was followed this (also repeated 4 times):

00:51:36.515153 212.209.62.2.1170 > 142.62.0.108.8080: S 126571:126571(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 18, id 9986)
00:51:36.515310 212.209.62.2.1170 > 142.62.0.108.8080: S 126571:126571(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 17, id 9986)
...
00:51:36.521579 212.209.62.2.1170 > 142.62.0.108.8080: S 126571:126571(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) [ttl 1] (id 9986)

and this (repeated 4 times):

00:52:24.638450 212.209.62.2.1248 > 142.62.0.108.3128: S 174756:174756(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 18, id 14851)
00:52:24.638597 212.209.62.2.1248 > 142.62.0.108.3128: S 174756:174756(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) (ttl 17, id 14851)
...
00:52:24.640191 212.209.62.2.1248 > 142.62.0.108.3128: S 174756:174756(0)
win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) [ttl 1] (id 14851)

Also, TTL analysis shows either the source address is spoofed, or at least
that there is initial TTL trickery going on.

Don

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