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Re: Port 33434 and decoy-scanning


From: MJParkin () COLT-TELECOM COM (Parkin, Miles)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:31:53 -0000


Hi,

The traffic that you are seeing is being generated by "eaic.com" who stream
audio to requesting users.  There explanation of this traffic is:

Your observations are new to us! We have never seen anyone pretend to
diagnose these behaviours and apply a program name to the processes with
such
commercialism. Unfortunately, we utilize Global Load-balancers and
fail-over
functions that do QOS probing to route requests to the right locations.
Someone within your network has requested sound samples from an online
music
retailer that is our client. We represent 99% of all the music retailers
on
the net including Amazon.com, CDNOW, Borders, Barnes & Noble, Tower
Records,
and all the others. Unfortunately, this behaviour may seem new to you, but
Cisco's Local Director, F5 Networks 3DNS, RadWare, ExTreme, and many
others
have commercially distributed products that simply take periodic RTT,
Packet
Loss, Hops, and other measurements to route traffic quickly and
efficiently
over the Internet, IMPROVING the Internet as a whole with these
technologies! I am considered an advocate in these technologies and can
answer more questions if you wish. We would be fine with blocking out all
of
your domains and so forth, but your end-users made requests for listening
to
streaming media, and we are simply ensuring they get the best performance
possible. Your Firewalk diagnosis is 98% wrong. But we appreciate your
complaint as we are not intending to cause any problems around the net,
NO!
Quite the opposite. And, you are MORE than welcome to give me a call
(206-699-4105) to discuss this further if you would like. There are
actually
two items that can provide this image or perception, and one being the
Real
Audio Server as well.

Have a great day, and thanks for your input. Unfortunately, these
technologies are NOT new, and it will take network engineers and
administrators awhile to catch on to the fact that you too will be using
such devices soon, in order to provide performance-based routing and 100%
guaranteed uptime as we do.

I initially saw the traffic as using the "FireWalk" tool which uses port
33434 UDP by default, but this is not the case here.

I can supply contact information for eaic if you require.

Regards,

Miles.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Roger Wilkens [mailto:jrw () SYSTEM SIKKERHET NO]
Sent: 08 March 2000 09:58
To: INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Port 33434 and decoy-scanning

Lately I have seen traffic towards port 33434 UDP on various networks.
Normal traceroute starts with port 33434, but the destination-port is
supposed to increase with each new packet. The traffic I've seen lately uses
port 33434 as destionation-port for all packets.

Today I also saw something resembling a decoy-scan towards port 33434. The
output from NFR from this scan is below. (If anyone is interessted in more
of this traffic, I can email it.) The timestamp is only valid down to 5 min.
intervals.

This network does not normally receive more than 1-3 normal traceroutes per
24 hours.

Does anyone have any idea of what this is?

This is all UDP-traffic:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Time                      Source             S.port  Dest IP            D.IP
Bytes    #
2000.03.07-17:00:00 216.33.87.8       2716 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2717 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2718 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2719 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2720 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
2000.03.07-17:05:00 167.8.29.91       2815 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2819 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
2000.03.07-17:15:00 209.67.29.10      2714 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2715 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2716 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2717 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2718 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2719 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
2000.03.07-17:30:00 209.67.29.8       2814 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.8       2815 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
2000.03.07-17:35:00 209.67.29.10      2714 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434     156
2
                    167.8.29.52       2715 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2715 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434     156
2
                    167.8.29.52       2716 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2716 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434     156
2
                    216.33.87.8       2716 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.52       2717 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2717 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434     156
2
                    216.33.87.8       2717 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.52       2718 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2718 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434     156
2
                    216.33.87.8       2718 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.52       2719 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    209.67.29.10      2719 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2719 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.8       2720 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.88     2814 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.89     2814 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434     156
2
                    167.8.29.91       2815 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.88     2815 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.89     2815 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434     156
2
                    167.8.29.91       2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.88     2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.89     2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434     156
2
                    209.67.29.8       2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.10      2816 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.88     2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.89     2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434     156
2
                    209.67.29.8       2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.10      2817 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.88     2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434      78
1
                    206.251.19.89     2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.37   33434     156
2
                    209.67.29.8       2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.10      2818 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    167.8.29.91       2819 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.10      2819 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
                    216.33.87.10      2820 xxx.xxx.xxx.40   33434      78
1
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----

Example of a normal traceroute towards the same network in the same
time-period:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Time                      Source             S.port  Dest IP            D.IP
Bytes    #
2000.03.07-11:10:00 208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33447      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33448      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33449      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33450      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33451      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33452      60
1
2000.03.07-11:15:00 208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33453      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33454      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33455      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33456      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33457      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33458      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33459      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33460      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33461      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33462      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33463      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33464      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33465      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33466      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33467      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33468      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33469      60
1
                    208.196.3.122    52545 xxx.xxx.xxx.204  33470      60
1
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Jan Roger Wilkens.


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