Re: R: Re: Korea (was RE: ?)

[k_liner () HOTMAIL COM (spookah .)]

If you were to leave your front door open in a bad neighborhood on accident
when you went to the store, and someone walked into your house and locked
and closed the door for you.  Would you consider them a criminal?  Would you
consider yourself violated?  Or would you consider yourself a lucky guy that
someone with good intentions noticed first?

If my box was cracked and someone with good intentions noticed for me and
secured my box, I would thank them and then continue on my own lookin
further into the problem.  You can say that guy is a criminal for walkin in
your house when you left the door open, but personnaly, I would call him a
nice guy.

spookah
Network Technician
Linux Administrator

> From: Jordan Ritter <jpr5 () BOS BINDVIEW COM>
> Reply-To: Jordan Ritter <jpr5 () BOS BINDVIEW COM>
> To: INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM
> Subject: Re: R:      Re: Korea (was RE: ?)
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:30:02 -0500
>
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, thomas lakofski wrote:
>
> # > I'm sure the CEO who dials up to the internet on his Windows 98 box,
> # > sharing his entire harddrive (including his quarterly and annual
> financial
> # > reports), ignorant of the possible transgressions, would disagree.
> # >
> # > Is it his fault?  Yes.  Does that make it okay?  No.
> #
> # Sure.  I'll leave my apartment door open in new york city, and put a sign
> # in the window indicating this fact.  Yes, it's still illegal to take my
> # stuff.  Will the police or insurance company sympathise?  I doubt it.
>
> Sympathy isn't relevant, though liability probably is.  In any case, the
> point I'm debating is whether or not it is "acceptable" in the legal sense
> to use someone's computer and services, unbeknownst to them, just because
> they are loaded and accessible to you.
>
> Do I care if the police sympathize with my ignorance?  No, not really, my
> things were taken without my permission, and breaking and entering is a
> different crime from theft.  All I should care about is with whom the
> liability lies, and the legality of the actions raised against me.
>
> Taking things from my apartment without my permission is illegal, whether
> you broke in or not.  End of story.
>
>
> Jordan Ritter
> RAZOR Security
> BindView Corporation

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