Re: Profiling Hackers..

[merith () sek2000 org]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:31:32AM -0500, nigel () 26354 net wrote:

Hi,

> > Yeah, the FBI..  ;-)  Among others I'm sure.
>
> I am quite sure the goverment has some information. This data
> should be made accessible to data security personel.

Who defines which person(s) is/are data security personel? How do you know
that they will use the Information for good purposes? How do you know the
data is valid? If the government does not like you they manipulate the data
and other people who use this data can then "confirm" this person is
responsible. If i could turn time back i would offer you a life in good old
DDR. Then you could see and life with the TIA from the STASI where some of
your "friends" are actually just people spying on you. Do you think a life
without trust even to your nearest friends is better? Dont trust blindly
goverments. Just check the democracys from today... democracy lifes from
critics ... best example is the US administration. Do they life with critics
and act after the will of the people or do they hinder/supress it and doing
stuff just a hand full of people are interested in?

> Most elite hackers have unique characteristics. That is what
> separates them from the bad ones. Even if they are not caught,
> it might be a good practice to record their attacks. 

What do you have more, skilled people (hacker vs. cracker) [1] breaking in
systems or skript kiddies breaking in systems with vulns just because the
responsible admin was to lazy/dumb? Should not the people who are
"responsible" for computer systems held resonsible for the things they are
responsible for?  
Please read: http://packetstormsecurity.nl/papers/contest/Mixter.txt ... its
maybe a litte out of the scope from this discussion but there are some good
points which cover this issue. 
 
[1] Please dont be a zombie of the all-mighty-brainwashing media and use the
correct terms for communication.

definition of hacker: http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/h/hacker.html
definition of cracker: http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/c/cracker.html

> Nigel Clarke
> Blade Runner
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