Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys

["Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>]

So, just for debate...

  The 5th protects us from handing over passwords.  So they ask for decrypted data to be handed over.
   Wouldn't that be a 5th amendment violation as well?

  If police raid my house with a warrant, I do not have to do a thing other than let them search and find what they 
want or not.
   If they find a locked safe (and I know the document about where I buried jimmy hoffa is in there), do I have to give 
them the combination?  Sounds like that would violate the 5th....  Can they force me to open the safe, thus giving them 
the document inside?  Does THAT violate the 5th... 
  What if they have a warrant to search the inside of the safe?   Do I have to surrender the combination then?

 Or do they have to attempt to open the locked safe  themselves?
  What happens if this is "uber-defcon-safe-2000" and it absolutely cannot EVER be opened without the correct 
combination?  What happens then when the police with the warrant cannot open it?
   Am I in contempt of court because I won't hand over evidence that I know will incriminate me?

  Thoughts?  Bonus points to those that can cite cases to backup their opinion/facts...  Double bonus if you're a 
constitutional lawyer and answer :-)

 Mike B

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Walton [mailto:noloader () gmail com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 09:28 PM
To: FunSec List <funsec () linuxbox org>
Subject: [funsec] Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto    keys

Sledgehammer once again used to crack a nut

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/08/christopher_wilson_students_refusal_to_give_up_crypto_keys_jail_sentence_ripa/

A computer science student accused of hacking offences has been jailed
for six months for failing to hand over his encryption passwords,
which he had been urged to do in "the interests of national security".

Christopher Wilson, 22, of Mitford Close, Washington, Tyne and Wear,
was jailed for refusing to hand over his computer passwords, a move
that frustrated an investigation into claims he launched an attack on
a police website.

Wilson, who has Asperger's Syndrome, was suspected of "trolling" the
Northumbria Police as well as attempting to break into the Serious
Organised Crime Agency's website.
...
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