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Whya can't my laptop figure out what time zone I'm in, like my cell phone does?
From: "Rob Slade, doting Grandpa of Rayn, Trevor, Devon, and Hannah" <rmslade () shaw ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:47:12 -0700 (MST)
We got new cell phones (mobiles, for you non-North Americans) recently. In the time since we last bought phones they have added lots of new features, like texting, cameras, email and Google Maps. This, plus the fact that I am away on a trip right now, and Gloria has to calculate what time it is for me when we communicate (exacerbated by the fact that I never change the time zone on the laptops to local time), prompted her to ask the question above. (She knows that I have an NTP client that updates the time on a regular basis. She's even got the associated clocks, on her desktop, in pink.) Cell phones, of course, have to know where they are (or, at least, the cellular system has to know where they are) very precisely, so they can be told, by the nearest cell tower, what time it is (or, at least, what time it is for that tower). Computers, however, have no way of knowing where they are, I explained. And then realized that I had made an untrue statement. Computers can find out (or somebody can find out) where a specific computer is when they are on the net. (And you have to be on the net to get time updates.) Some Websites use this (sometimes startlingly accurate) information in a variety of amusing (and sometimes annoying or frightening) ways. So it is quite possible for a laptop to find out what time zone it is in, when it updates the time. Well, if it is possible, then, in these days of open source, surely someone has done it. Except that a quick couple of checks (with AltaVista and Google) didn't find anything like that. There does seem to be some interest: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8049912/how-can-i-get-the-network-time-from-the-automatic-setting-called-use-netw and there seems to be an app for an Android phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.org.amip.ClockSync&hl=en (which seems silly since you can already get that from the phone side), but I couldn't find an actual client or system for a computer or laptop. So, any suggestions? Or, anybody interested in a project? ====================== rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org "If you do buy a computer, don't turn it on." - Richards' 2nd Law "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 "Viruses Revealed" 0-07-213090-3 "Software Forensics" 0-07-142804-6 "Dictionary of Information Security" Syngress 1-59749-115-2 ============= for back issues: CISSP refs: http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/mnbksccd.htm PC Security: http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/mnvrrvsc.htm Security Dict.: http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/secgloss.htm Security Educ.: http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/comseced.htm Book reviews: http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/mnbk.htm http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/review.htm Partial/recent: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techbooks/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Slade http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Whya can't my laptop figure out what time zone I'm in, like my cell phone does? Rob Slade, doting Grandpa of Rayn, Trevor, Devon, and Hannah (Dec 06)
- Re: Whya can't my laptop figure out what time zone I'm in, like my cell phone does? Jeffrey Walton (Dec 06)
- Re: Whya can't my laptop figure out what time zone I'm in, like my cell phone does? Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: Whya can't my laptop figure out what time zone I'm in, like my cell phone does? Jeffrey Walton (Dec 06)