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Re: Don't spend too much time in the bathroom...


From: "David Harley" <david.a.harley () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:46:10 -0000

Sigh... what was that piddle pack URL again? Can I buy in bulk?

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David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP
Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET

 

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
[mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Juha-Matti Laurio
Sent: 29 December 2009 12:59
To: Alex Eckelberry; Larry Seltzer; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Don't spend too much time in the bathroom...

And if you have to visit there twice or EVEN three times 
during a flight you have to tell to the crew beforehand!

Juha-Matti

Larry Seltzer [larry () larryseltzer com] kirjoitti: 
The answer is obvious. Airplane bathroom doors should automatically 
open after 10 minutes and an alarm should sound.

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
[mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of Juha-Matti Laurio
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:13 AM
To: funsec () linuxbox org; Alex Eckelberry
Subject: Re: [funsec] Don't spend too much time in the bathroom...

The story mentioned in Flight 253 thread (pointing to NYDailyNews
article) says that
"Passengers told investigators that Abdulmutallab spent about 20 
minutes in the bathroom and covered himself with a blanket 
when he sat down"

Only 20 minutes... The second Nigerian man spent an hour.
Now TSA has to wake up is ten minutes or more too long...

Juha-Matti

Alex Eckelberry [AlexE () sunbelt-software com] kirjoitti: 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091228/D9CS0P2G0.html


ROMULUS, Mich. (AP) - Armed officers on Sunday rushed aboard the 
same
Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines flight that was attacked 
on Christmas 
Day, but the perceived threat wasn't much of a danger - just an ill 
traveler who spent too much time in the bathroom.

Coming so soon after a Nigerian was accused of trying to blow up a
plane, authorities quickly responded to an emergency call from the 
crew on Flight 253 from Amsterdam. Some of the 256 passengers were 
rattled while others apparently weren't aware of the incident.

Tim Jeronimus, 13, said he was "a bit nervous" when officers 
entered,
and his 11-year-old sister, Emma, said she was scared.

Their mother, Jane Jeronimus, said the captain told 
passengers that 
no
arrival gates were available.

"I said to my husband, 'That's not true,'" she later 
recalled inside
the terminal at Detroit Metropolitan Airport. Airport police and 
border officers then entered the cabin to remove the man 
from the plane.

Passengers were safely evacuated, and luggage was lined up on the
ground for inspection by bomb-sniffing dogs.

The passenger, also a Nigerian, was a businessman who was sick and
posed no security threat, said two law enforcement 
officials who spoke 
on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized 
to discuss 
the incident.

The traveler in question had "spent a lengthy time in the 
restroom,"
FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said.

"This raised concerns so an alert was raised. ... The 
investigation
shows that this was a non-serious incident and all is clear at this 
point," she said.

The passenger was released after questioning, Berchtold said.

The man used the bathroom several times during the trip 
and refused 
to
come out as the plane was preparing to land, said Lester Robinson, 
head of the Wayne County Airport Authority.
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