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Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy
From: Anton Chuvakin <anton () chuvakin org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:40:23 -0700
If a hypothetical outside observer were looking at our planet, trying to pick a species whose elimination would most benefit the planet and (the rest of) its inhabitants, I'd have trouble seeing how to justify any choice other than Homo sapiens sapiens. At least I certainly hope such an outside observer is hypotheical; I _am_ human myself. :-/
I was really not going for this new discussion direction, but that piece made me do it :-) Sorry for sounding like its the 19th century, but humans really ARE the top of the evolution (as we know it). If WE feel like fucking the planet, we should be allowed to. No number of birds will stop it. There is no such thing as "the Planet", but there is "an area where humans happen to reside for now." Anthropocentrism is not some kinda bad thing; it is the only one that makes sense. Thus, we need to preserve nature as it serves us - and, obviously, destroy it as it serves us. Now, making the choice between the latter and the former is hard in many situations, especially when short-term considerations (e.g. cut the forests for firewood, extract oil for fuel) override the long term... -- Anton Chuvakin, Ph.D http://www.chuvakin.org http://chuvakin.blogspot.com http://www.info-secure.org _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
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- Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy Anton Chuvakin (Jul 23)
- Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy chris (Jul 24)