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Re: weirdo warning
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:36:38 -0400
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:29:00PM +0300, Gadi Evron wrote:
Rich Kulawiec wrote:The serious part: Wording: the proper term is "confirmed opt-in" -- that is, a confirmation step is used in order to make sure that the person claiming that they want to subscribe is the only person authorized to make such claims, i.e., the owner of the email address in play. "double opt-in" is spammer-speak, and it's a nonsense phrase besides: there's nothing being done twice. It was coined by spammers (who have also used "triple opt-in" and even "quadruple opt-in") in order to obfuscate their tactics.But it's clearer?
Your comment certainly isn't clear to me: I don't know what the "it" you're referring to is. ;-) But (if I can guess what you're asking me) the acronym COI (confirmed opt-in) has been in fairly common use for quite some time. That same acronym has also been expanded to "closed-loop opt-in", which carries the same meaning and indicates that affirmitive consent has been secured directly from the owner of the email address(es) in question. Among spammers/marketroids, "double opt-in" often means "entered the same email address twice in the same form" which of course provides no confirmation of any kind whatsoever. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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