Re: press trickery of the worst kind

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

This is a bit of an overreaction. Anyone on this list gets an inquiry  
from someone they're wondering about, ping me privately. There's some  
good eggs out there.



On Jul 15, 2009, at 2:30 PM, "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:

> I only speak to writers for IEEE technical publications, at peer
> conferences, write my own pieces, or do first-person, live  
> interviews on
> TV for this reason.
>
> "Clear writers assume, with a pessimism born of experience, that
> whatever
> isn't plainly stated the reader will invariably misconstrue." - John  
> R.
> Trimble
>
> I guess a modern paraphrase would be:
>
> "Clear speakers assume, with a pessimism born of experience, that
> whatever
> Can be twisted and misconstrued will invariably be so."
>
> Journalist:(n) One without the literary talent or credibility to write
> their own prose or be believed on their own, but the ability to twist
> others' beyond comprehension to suit their purposes.
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec- 
> > bounces () linuxbox org]
> > On Behalf Of Gadi Evron
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:42 PM
> > To: funsec
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] press trickery of the worst kind
> >
> > Update:
> > Mr. Harris sent me an email stating he sent in a correction
> > recommendation. Let's see what happens with it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gadi Evron wrote:
> > > I spoke yesterday with one David Harris--I shouldn't have. He is a
> > > reporter for a Chinese publication and was writing a story on "cyber
> > > war" in the middle east. He was referenced by a friend so I was  
> > > happy
> > to
> > > help him.
> > >
> > > I mentioned how whenever there are political and ethnic
> > > tensions--anywhere, cyber after-math follows. This often consists of
> > > silliness such as kids attacking with defacement and DDoS attacks. I
> > > also mentioned "warfare" is buzzword, hyped, over-kill which
> shouldn't
> > > be used lightly.
> > >
> > > At no point did I speak of Israel as a state. I told the reporter
> that
> > I
> > > don't work for the Israeli government these days and that I can't
> > > comment anyway as I know nothing about what Israel does or doesn't
> do.
> > > Here is what he wrote:
> > >
> > >    "Gadi Evron, a private consultant formerly responsible for
> > security in
> > > Israeli government's non-military computer system, does not deny  
> > > that
> > > his country has a large-scale activity using the Internet to disrupt
> > > enemy activities. He just tends to err when it comes to talk of the
> > more
> > > grandiose plots. "
> > >
> > > Even if I forgive him for calling me a consultant...
> > > I called the guy, and he said: "well, you did not deny it".
> > >
> > > Of course I did not deny it, how can I deny something I know nothing
> > > about? He may as well have said I didn't deny the Roswell landing  
> > > and
> > > alien abductions.
> > >
> > > Immediately after what is referenced to me without quoting, he  
> > > puts a
> > > quote which claims this even more vehemently. He then attributed it
> to
> > > someone else at the end of the paragraph almost as an after-thought:
> > >
> > >     "While it is clear Israel has successfully used cyber-tactics
> > > against its enemies, it is harder to know to what extent Israel has
> > been
> > > hit, according to Dahan. "
> > >
> > > I don't know where Dahan comes up with his facts, but I my alarm
> bells
> > > should have ringed when the repoter, Mr. Harris, asked me about  
> > > silly
> > > rumored conspiracy theories against the US government--they were so
> > > ridiculous I don't even remember what they were.
> > >
> > > Was this reporter just looking for a hit story, no matter if
> > > unsubstantiated and unprofessional, or is this some sort of agenda?
> > >
> > > This is trickery of the lowest sort, and yellow journalism if I've
> > ever
> > > seen such. Unless it was an honest mistake on the reporter's part-- 
> > > in
> > > which case I hope this is fixed soon.
> > >
> > > You can find his article, here:
> > > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-07/15/content_11709201.htm
> > >
> > >    Gadi.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gadi Evron,
> > ge () linuxbox org.
> >
> > Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/
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