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Re: Sen. Brownback Spotlights Chinese Order to Spy on Olympic Hotel Guests


From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:16:15 -0500

For email, another simple option is to connect one's POP3 and SMTP servers
via SSL.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:tomb () byrneit net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:59 PM
To: Jim Murray; Richard M. Smith
Cc: funsec
Subject: RE: [funsec] Sen. Brownback Spotlights Chinese Order to Spy on
Olympic Hotel Guests

In general, using Internet from a hotel without using a VPN client is
just crazy. Of course, the Great Firewall will probably block your
SSL/PPTP/IPSEC VPN 



-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
[mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Jim Murray
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: Richard M. Smith
Cc: 'funsec'
Subject: Re: [funsec] Sen. Brownback Spotlights Chinese Order 
to Spy on Olympic Hotel Guests

Richard M. Smith wrote:
I wonder what company is supplying this Chinese government spyware 
"software"?  It seems like the spyware would have to be some sort 
pack-sniffer box that gets installed in a hotel and then 
periodically 
phones home with activity logs.  I wonder also how room 
registration 
information is matched with Web surfing activities.

If the hotel charges for internet access (and many do) it's 
actually fairly trivial to match activity logs to room registration.

All of the major players in the hotel internet access market 
interface to the hotel's front office systems for billing 
purposes already which gives them the first part of the data 
(the guest's name/room number). 
Users are generally authenticated by MAC address so a unique 
identifier is present in the traffic passing the billing gateway.

It's not a huge step from there to recording the history for 
full analysis later.

If you want security, use a VPN to a known-secure location. 
At least then all anyone snooping will get is the endpoint IP.

Jim.
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