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Re: Protesters on UK Parliament
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:49:31 -0500
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:05:28AM -0500, Richard M. Smith wrote:
The earth appears to be entering a cold spell due to low sun spot activity. The data is now in: Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling http://tinyurl.com/3b6zje A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.
This is also part of a chain email that's apparently circulating, and it's nonsense -- contradicted by the very sources that it references. It's appearing at places like this: http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm which reads in part: Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming ... All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously. Except that's not what they say. Rather the opposite. For example, NASA's GISS site at: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/ says: The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. It's worth reading that entire page, by the way. Any number of people appear to have fallen for this "it's the sunspots!" canard -- and it is a canard, as Bad Astronomy points out: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/04/29/is-global-warming-solar-induced/ which reads in part: Over the whole sunspot cycle, at most, this would raise the temperature of the Earth on average by 0.2 degrees Celsius, and we are measuring increases much larger than that (not to mention the trend just keeps going up, and doesn't rise and fall with the sunspot cycle). People who try to tie global warming to the Sun have very little evidence, and what they do have does not come close to explaining the rise in temperature we see on Earth. That entire page is worth reading, too. I know that most people don't follow physics that closely, so let me point out something: solar output is one of the most closely watched phenomena in all of astronomy. Every twitch, every flutter, anywhere in the electromagnetic spectrum, is dutifully recorded and peered at. This is partially because it's nearby, partially because it's relatively easy to observe, and partially because we have ample reason to care about it. If there were a correlation between sunspot activity and the presently observed climactic variations, the people doing all that peering would be the first ones to jump all over it. Journals would be flooded with papers. People would be scrambling for a Nobel Prize. None of this is happening. And while "global warming" is actually an accurate description in thermodynamic terms, it's probably not the best one to communicate the results. Even "global climate change" doesn't quite cover it. The best one -- as someone pointed out recently, and I need to find that citation again -- is "global climate weirdness". The injection of additional energy into (or the decrease in the rate at which energy is dissipated from) a partially-closed hydrodynamic system results in larger, stronger, and lengthier local effects. And "effects" doesn't just mean Weather Channel highlight reel stuff like larger snowstorms and more severe droughts; it can also mean things like exceedingly stable air masses or unusually persistent ocean currents. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament, (continued)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Larry Seltzer (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Larry Seltzer (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Rich Kulawiec (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)
- Re: Protesters on UK Parliament Richard M. Smith (Feb 27)