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Re: The slippery slope in action....


From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:23:27 -0500

Right, waterboarding isn't "torture".  It's an "enabling technology".

 

Richard

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:AlexE () sunbelt-software com] 
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:50 PM
To: Richard M. Smith; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] The slippery slope in action....

 

Yes, their motto was:

 

"The beatings continue until the morale improves."

 

Seems to not have been that effective. 

 

Of course, waterboarding isn't tortue anyway, so it's all good...right?

 

 

Alex

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From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Richard M. Smith
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:46 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: [funsec] The slippery slope in action....

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8385103

 

Employee's suit: Company used waterboarding to motivate workers

By
<mailto:ealberty () sltrib com?subject=Salt%20Lake%20Tribune:%20Employee%27s%20
suit:%20Company%20used%20waterboarding%20to%20motivate%20workers>  Erin
Alberty


Article Last Updated: 02/27/2008 07:13:46 PM MST

 

Posted: 7:14 PM- A supervisor at a motivational coaching business in Provo
is accused of waterboarding an employee in front of his sales team to
demonstrate that they should work as hard on sales as the employee had
worked to breathe. 
    In a lawsuit filed last month, former Prosper, Inc. salesman Chad
Hudgens alleges his managers also allowed the supervisor to draw mustaches
on employees' faces, take away their chairs and beat on their desks with a
wooden paddle "because it resulted in increased revenues for the company." 
    Prosper president Dave Ellis responded that the allegations amount to
"sensationalized" versions of events that have gone uncorroborated by
Hudgens' former coworkers. 
    "They just roll their eyes and say, 'This is ridiculous . . . That's not
how it went down,' " Ellis said. 
    The suit claims that Hudgens' team leader, Joshua Christopherson, asked
for volunteers in May for "a new motivational exercise," which he did not
describe. Hudgens, who was 26 at the time, volunteered in order to "prove
his loyalty and determination," the suit claims. 
    Christopherson led the sales team to the top of a hill near the office
and told Hudgens to lie down with his head downhill, the suit claims.
Christopherson then told the rest of the team to hold Hudgens by the arms
and legs. 
    Christopherson poured water 

from a gallon jug over Hudgens' mouth and nostrils - like the interrogation
strategy known as "waterboarding" - and told the team members to hold
Hudgens down as he struggled, the suit alleges. 
    "At the conclusion of his abusive demonstration, Christopherson told the
team that he wanted them to work as hard on making sales as Chad had worked
to breathe while he was being waterboarded," the suit alleges. 

 

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