Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs

[John Payne <john () sackheads org>]

On Nov 6, 2007, at 22:11, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:

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> - -- "Lawson, Joseph" <jsl () pqa com> wrote:
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> > FTA: "In a few short weeks, three companies managed to destroy the
> > argument that 'Net neutrality is a theoretical issue by demonstrating
> > how it can go wrong - censoring rock bands, censoring political
> > advocacy, attacking peer-to-peer protocols."
> >
> > Isn't the author confusing, as many do, Net Neutrailty with QOS.   
> > As I
> > understand it, net neutraility just means that packets will get
> > delivered reguardless of source or destination without degredation of
> > service.  QOS is where they are getting into trouble.  Isn't it well
> > known that many providers do not let certain services on their  
> > network?
> > If you want full internet without their wacky QOS junk, pay for a  
> > real
> > ISP.
>
> A couple of minor issues.
>
> Sure, the author may indeed be confusing QoS and Net Neutrality,
> however, but given the current imbroglio with telcos providing
> wholesale access to  law enforcement without proper judicial
> oversight, there is little difference in the reasoning here. :-)
>
> Also, as someone who has studied (and written on) QoS issues in
> depth, this _does_ involve Net Neutrality issues insofar as ISPs
> surreptitiously mucking around with the traffic stream, but not
> really with regards to encryption (and I'm pretty sure encryption
> would not help much here at all, since we are talking about TCP/IP
> port-level services -- see pervious paragraph, however).

No need for encryption just drop md5 sigs in the TCP options


> :-)
>
> Ref:
>
> > http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2007/110607antonopoulos.html
>
> - - ferg
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