Re: 'Bad Guys are Winning' Despite Fight Against Spam

[Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>]

Dude VanWinkle wrote:

> Spammers shouldn't be killed, we should just get rid of botnets, or

Like that's going to happen any time this decade...

> block port 25 outbound from the consumer ISP's unless the user
> requests it.

You don't understand spam at all, do you?

Think about it -- if botnets are a problem then lack of outgoing port 
25 in large ISP's is not a problem for a spammer (you can't possibly 
think that in general spam _must_ come from outside your network, can 
you?), and if botnets are a problem then more stringent port 25/SMTP 
checks in many large ISP's will not make much difference with webmail 
or other submission methods, and if botnets are a problem then moving 
to parasitic spam will not be a problem in the unlikely event that all 
the other real spam-causing problems get fixed...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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