Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports?

[Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy () kc rr com>]

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Brian Loe wrote:
> Question I have here is: how did this guy break a US law from the UK?
> I never understood it with the Panama bullshit and I don't understand
> it in this instance...

The United States uses a liberal theory of legal jurisdiction -- anytime 
you do business with people inside the U.S., that business is subject to 
federal law.  Foreign nationals whose business relationships with 
Americans violate U.S. law are eligible for prosecution just as they 
would be if their business were done within the physical boundaries of 
the territory of the United States.

California used this same theory of jurisdiction at the state level to 
regulate all businesses with California customers under its now-infamous 
breach notification law.

The only reason they waited to arrest him until he arrived in the U.S. 
was because extradition arrangements were not available due to the 
"shared standard" rule of most extradition treaties.  That is, because 
Mr. Carruthers actions were NOT illegal in his homeland, U.S. 
extradition treaties could not be applied.

IMO, the concern about flight lists being used to identify Carruthers is 
misplaced.  Carruthers would have been obligated to file customs 
declarations upon arrival in the United States that would have exposed 
him to identification.  An outstanding arrest warrant signed by a 
federal judge would have been identified at that stage, regardless. 
That, of course, assumes there wasn't any immigration paperwork filed 
prior to his arrival -- probably a lofty assumption.

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