Re: [privacy] Laptop Stolen From D.C. Home With Personal Data of 13, 000

[Gregory Hicks <ghicks () cadence com>]

> From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:37:27 -0400
> To: <drsollyp () drsolly com>
> Cc: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [privacy] Laptop Stolen From D.C. Home With Personal Data of 13, 
000
>  Sounds like you're not really a fan of the National ID cards.  I'm not 
either, for numerous reasons.
>   One question...  What's a "nine Bob Note"?  

Essentially the same thing as a three dollar bill.

> Are you inferring that the ID cards will be easy to forge?
>
>   Mike B
>
>
> Michael P. Blanchard 
> Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
> Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
> EMC ² Corporation 
> 4400 Computer Dr. 
> Westboro, MA 01580 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drsolly [mailto:drsollyp () drsolly com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:42 PM
> To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
> Cc: fergdawg () netzero net; privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
> Subject: RE: [privacy] Laptop Stolen From D.C. Home With Personal Data of 13, 
000
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 Blanchard_Michael () emc com wrote:
>
> >   Dr. Solly, I agree with each and everything you said below.  SSN was never
> > meant to be an ID number, but these days if you have someone's SSN and a
> > couple other pieces of info.... Hmmm, lets hit someone's trash and grab a
> > utility bill or two, then "find" their SSN on the web somewhere, ok now
> > let's go to the DMV in some far away town to get a replacement drivers
> > license....  You've now become that person, easy cheesy....
> >
> >   It's not nust the SSN that I'm worried about though.  Personal information
> > in general, Credit card numbers, bank account numbers, hell even the color
> > of my eyes or hair (yes if you've seen my in person, these two are pretty
> > obvious, and I believe I've met just about everyone on this list in person
> > at one time or another).  BUT!  It doesn't matter.  It's MY information.
> > Information about ME, no one else.  Information that's supposed to be
> > PRIVATE.  These places don't have the right, IMHO, to allow my information
> > to be stored on any laptop and brought home with anyone.  I should be able
> > to assume a reasonable amount of security precautions will be taken with my
> > data. 
>
> Yes, I agree that the info should be kept confidential. I'm saying that, 
> in addition, banks and credit companies shouldn't be so gullible as to 
> accept ssn as proof of identity.
>  
> >   It is very interesting to note that most of this data theft is within
> > the States, at least those that we hear of....  What are you guys doing
> > in the UK that prevents or seriously discourages this type of thing?
>  
> We have a three-part approach.
>
> 1) We don't have SSNs, so you can't give them out by accident.
>
> 2) If there is a major loss of data, no-one tells anyone about it, because 
> it would only upset the consumers and make them worry about their 
> confidential data.
>
> 3) We're planning to introduce "Identity cards", which will cost an 
> enormous amount per card, require an enormously expensive computer system 
> to administer (which will cost three times as much as the original 
> estimate), and which will be about as difficult to forge as a nine bob 
> note.
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