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Re: [privacy] First they came...
From: coderman <coderman () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:56:55 -0700
On 6/3/06, Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de> wrote:
... But we computer folks protect the status quo. We keep the financial and communications infrastructure and all those databases running, help law enforcement where necessary, and support the political system in various ways. It's a bit unrealistic to suggest we won't be the people who wouldn't help to hunt down dissidents. After all, they are just a couple of rows in an SQL database, aren't they?
are these mutually exclusive? my paid labor involves data providers while my personal interests center around privacy enhancing technologies. having a view "from the inside" helps me better understand the real world threats to privacy and how to protect it. while the ethical aspects can be difficult (the company i work for only deals in a limited set of public information; i would have a harder time working for a ChoicePoint for example) i don't think they are mutually exclusive. there was an interesting exchange described in the "Crashing the Wiretappers Ball" article[1] when the reporter asked how the engineers felt about their technology being used for potential totalitarian control over citizens: ''.. Now leave these guys alone; they make a product, that's all. It's nothing to them what happens afterward.'' our products and services are tools which can be used properly for good purposes or abused for harm against others. to what extent are we personally responsible for their use in other's hands? not at all? a little bit? only if we actively facilitate such malicious efforts with foreknowledge? we computer folks facilitate/protect the status quo, but like Mark Klein we also have a unique ability to observe and speak out against abuses of our efforts. i may provide assistance to data providers who aggregate and analyze public information but i also write tools for individuals to protect the privacy of their personal information. there is an element of personal responsibility that is expected; those who wish to stay out of the databases i assist can do so easily and i have provided instruction and tools toward that end. i am comfortable with the ethics of these decisions. likewise, many NSA analysts are comfortable with their efforts when directed at foreign adversaries. like Russell Tice, they may be compelled to expose abuses like domestic surveillance without oversight when the leadership for the agency turns a legitimate tool toward illegitimate uses. where do you personally draw the line? is it none of your concern how your tools or efforts are used? do the ends justify the means? are your decisions ethical as long as you do not participate directly in malicious or abhorrent programs? physicians have the Hippocratic Oath; engineering is a profession that would also be well served by a focus on ethical practice. 1. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71022-0.html?tw=wn_index_21 P.S. one of the most popularized evils used to justify totalitarian invasion of digital communications is child pornography (see the recent data retention laws and legal intercepts associated with internet communication in various jurisdictions). the privacy enhancing technologies that i develop can be and will be misused by these people to facilitate and conceal abuses of children. as someone who experienced physical and sexual abuse as a child this is particularly relevant to the ethical concerns i reason with when deciding to put my time, effort, and resources into these projects. this is a not a decision i've reached lightly, able to brush aside with a "not my problem, i only make the tools". but i am certain of the benefits and importance of individual privacy and know that i have made the correct decision. how many truly consider the ethical ramifications of their work in information technology? should you place a bit more emphasis on these decisions? should we as technologists encourage others to do the same? these are questions that will only become more prominent and relevant over time. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
Current thread:
- [privacy] First they came... [Was: Re: Connecticut Librarians Defy the FBI] Fergie (Jun 03)
- Re: [privacy] First they came... Florian Weimer (Jun 03)
- Re: [privacy] First they came... coderman (Jun 05)
- Re: [privacy] First they came... coderman (Jun 05)
- Re: [privacy] First they came... coderman (Jun 05)
- Re: [privacy] First they came... Florian Weimer (Jun 03)