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Re: 1 March 1990: U.S. Secret Service Raids Austin's Steve Jackson Ga mes
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:24:59 GMT
For what its worth, I wanted to send along this message from Jon Lebkowsy, who was quite involved in the creation of the EFF, and co-founded the Austin-EFF. He's a big shot around these parts. :-) - ferg p.s. BTW, this URk is very much worth reading, if you are truly curious of the creation forces around the EFF: http://www.weblogsky.com/technopolitics.htm Also, some of these folks will be here in Austin for SXSW... including Steve Jackson. [snip] -- Jon Lebkowsky <jonl () polycot com> wrote: Yeah, tempus fugit! Or "time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like bananas." I wrote an EFF history for the now-defunct Australian slick 21C: http://www.weblogsky.com/technopolitics.htm ~ Jon Fergie wrote:
Well, I figured it was worth mentioning. :-) It is part of our history now, and one worth remembering. - ferg ps. 16 years has gone by damned fast, huh? ;-) -- Jon Lebkowsky <jonl () polycot com> wrote: You're right, it wasn't part of Operation Sundevil, which was Gail Thackeray's operation. She was in Arizona; the SJ Games raid was conducted Secret Service's Chicago unit and Chicago prosecutor Bill Cook, who was basically chasing the trail of a Bell South document purloined by Len Rose and published on Phrack, a copy of which was sent to Loyd Blankenship, and SJ Games employee. Fergie was also slightly incorrect in saying that the Steve Jackson case resulted in the formation of the EFF. EFF formation was already in process when the raid occurred, and was driven in part by a conversation with hackers on the WELL that John Barlow helped organize, a transcription of which was published in Harper's. Barlow had a visit from the FBI afterward, and realized that they didn't understand technology well enough to make informed decisions about "computer crime." He and Mitch Kapor talked it over, and that led to the birth of the EFF. The Jackson case was just fortuitous in that it happened as this was going on, and was the perfect foundation case for EFF. A couple of months after EFF formed, Steve suggested a chapter in Austin, which led to the formation of EFF-Austin. We incorporated separately, and EFF chose not to have chapters, so we just became our own thing... a long story in itself. ~ Jon kinnaman () Io Com wrote:Although Wikipedia, and the media, say it was part of "Operation Sun Devil," Steve Jackson says otherwise: http://www.sjgames.com/SS/topten.html As I understand it, the little dial-up BBS contained e-mail of BBS members, and by taking the e-mail, the Secret Service did naughty, and paid for it nicely, once the judge was shown the law on the matter. Other Myths I always tell folks that the cash to start IO.COM came from the Secret Service - even though I have no idea if that's really what the Jackson family did with the $$$ federal payment. <grin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sundevil[snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe () effaustin org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help () effaustin org
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