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Re[6]: The end of Phishing in sight?
From: Pierre Vandevenne <pierre () datarescue com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:38:22 +0200
Good Day, DNK> Do any European countries (or anywhere else besides the USA) have a DNK> concept similar to an EIN? Well, in Belgium, we have an employer identification number, linked to the social security we pay for the people we employ. That number isn't used for any other purposes in practice (well, when you sign governmental contracts, you have to prove you don't owe them anything and you use that number). But except for very small businesses in some countries, the VAT number is supposed to be the "universal" number and will even become more so on the future. All the other transactions are carried out with the National ID card (or eventually a passport). Unless I go to a branch where I am physically known, I'll need my ID card to withdraw money, or even deposit (not even cash) a check. As I said earlier, this essentially only happens when we receive foreign checks since we don't use checks internally that much anymore (we do use guaranteed/certified, bank prepared checks to buy houses or cars though). When a foreign check is cashed, the bank will automatically state a warning "funds unavailable for 6 days" although they may credit you at once for interest purposes if you are a good customer. That prevents the typical fraud where you deposit a check and wire back some money before the check clears. To cash out in a branch that doesn't know me, I'll need my National ID card again, and possibly a notarized copy of my company's founding papers if the operation seems unusual. The situation is roughly identical in the other EU countries I have dealt with banks, except that the French are a bit more outdated in some aspects (checks/traites) and were a bit ahead in others (credit cards "chipped" and pin code protected in the early 90s). Actually, one thing I have always wondered is how they do it in UK, without National ID Cards - anyone willing to shed some light about that? DrSolly maybe? -- Best regards, Pierre mailto:pierre () datarescue com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: The end of Phishing in sight?, (continued)
- Re: The end of Phishing in sight? Blue Boar (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Blanchard_Michael (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Richard M. Smith (Oct 18)
- Re: The end of Phishing in sight? Blue Boar (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Jeff Rosowski (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Richard M. Smith (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Blanchard_Michael (Oct 18)
- Re: The end of Phishing in sight? Tom Van Vleck (Oct 18)
- RE: The end of Phishing in sight? Henderson, Dennis K. (Oct 18)
- Re: The end of Phishing in sight? Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Oct 18)
- Re: Re[4]: The end of Phishing in sight? Dr. Neal Krawetz (Oct 19)
- Re[6]: The end of Phishing in sight? Pierre Vandevenne (Oct 19)